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The photo was taken in Budapest, not "south of the border."



Well if it was Budapest it could have been a bad Kilos to pounds conversion. All speculation related to what appears to be a minimum flap setting. Did I strike a chord with the south of the border observation or are you a stickler for details.

I have flown South of the Border and I have briefly worked for Arrow Air, so hard to say what it may be but they have some good crews working in sometimes very tough places around the world.
 
Damn---I think i'd have my eyes closed by that point and the seat cushion to far up to be removed!!!!

Have you seen this IL-76 in Australia??
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aWtdtuspnoM

The Non-sched world is crazy( at times). Imagine if they had cameras back in the day everywhere when Buffalo, Trans Con, Kallitta, just name a few others were everywhere.
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I'm guessing photo shop. Looking at the photo, does anybody think the gear would be that far in transit that soon after lift off?

And I'm no expert on the MF'n-10, but wouldn't the inner gear doors be open at this point to allow the wheels to stow?

It's not like it's a 737 and doesn't have them.
 
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If you zoom way in on the photo, the pixel size on the background and on the Aircraft are identical. My if it's photoshopped they did a great job.
 
Well if it was Budapest it could have been a bad Kilos to pounds conversion. All speculation related to what appears to be a minimum flap setting. Did I strike a chord with the south of the border observation or are you a stickler for details.

I have flown South of the Border and I have briefly worked for Arrow Air, so hard to say what it may be but they have some good crews working in sometimes very tough places around the world.

No, no nerve struck. I have flown into/out of Bogota and Quito, subcontracting for Arrow, with a 747. I have also flown out of a sea-level airport and almost had my F/E kill all of us because he figured the T/O data and power setting incorrectly (substitute a 747 in the picture which is the subject of this thread, except possibly even lower to the ground at the end of the runway).

Also, I doubt that photo is fake. The comments about the gear retracting or whatever...for one thing, wouldn't the nose doors be open already if the gear was coming up? I think they just look like they are not down because of a parallax effect from the photograph, or the photographer panning his camera at the time, or something.

But I would say that it's always a good idea for the ENTIRE crew to review the data that were used to calculate the TOLD card, for at least one crewmember to actively monitor the loading process if possible, and for someone to walk the freight after it is loaded with load sheet in hand to confirm the positions and the weights. That Arrow plane was missing a tragedy by about another 500 feet.
 
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Whatever happened I'm glad those guys are ok. You don't always know when what they say weighs 3000LB is really MUCH heavier. I was in a smaller plane, but those semi's on the highway were pretty damn big...
 

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