Are women pilots 8 times safer than men?

[English]

Of the 11 female pilots I know. I'd only trust the plane to two of them. One should not be in this industry, she just happens to be a female (at least I think she is)

Same could be said for a few dudes, but whats the fun at poking fun of us?

Cheers.

Wow, you've flown with 11 female pilots at only 400 hours total time? That's more than I've ever flown with. You must be popular.

Let me guess...you are all of, say, 22?

 

[DX Rick]

Even worse!

But I flew with a girl today, and she did a great job........of holding the plates and charts.

I think I need to stop drinking

 

[Tackleberry]

I said:

Of the 11 female pilots I know

In my case, English is my first language, but I'd be more than happy to converse in Francias, or perhaps Deutsch.

And yes, 9 of them I wouldn't trust my car to, let alone an airplane. And the other two I'd take a bullet for.

 

[English]

You know, I know eleven 22-year-old, 400 hour private pilots that are male. I would only fly with two of them.

 

[DX Rick]

You know, I know eleven 22-year-old, 400 hour private pilots that are male. I would only fly with two of them.

Ok, I have been flying for over a year now. If you didn't feel confortable flying with someone...don't you have the comfort in yourself to know what is right, and wrong?
Just saying, if they're about to do something wrong, or about to put you in jeopordy...don't you have the self confidence in yourself to take control of the situation?

Just a question. I have only flown with one person, and one person only that I would never fly with again. That was only because SHE would never shut the he!! up. I have flown with several females that I would, and will fly with again. But this broad would bite through the duct tape if she was taped shut.

 

[English]

I was joshing with Tackleberry. Just seems ironic that a 22 year old private pilot with 400 hours, such as Tackleberry, can be in the position to state he wouldn't fly with most of the female pilots he knows because of his perception they are unsafe. My comment that I wouldn't fly with most 400 hour pilots is just as ridiculous as his comment that he won't fly with most female pilots. I guess the sarcasm was lost in translation. That is what the smilie was for


And, DX Rick time to lay off the booze, man!

 

[DX Rick]

I was joshing with Tackleberry. Just seems ironic that a 22 year old private pilot with 400 hours, such as Tackleberry, can be in the position to state he wouldn't fly with most of the female pilots he knows because of his perception they are unsafe. My comment that I wouldn't fly with most 400 hour pilots is just as ridiculous as his comment that he won't fly with most female pilots. I guess the sarcasm was lost in translation. That is what the smilie was for


And, DX Rick time to lay off the booze, man!

If I sober up, I may want to leave this industry
Nah, I understand that you guys were horsing with each other. I was just asking other people in general, why they say " they wouldn't fly with another" pilot in general. Whether it be male or female. I hear some guys say "No, way! they have no clue as to what they're doing!"......I'm just asking those people if they have any confidence in themselves to take over in that type of situation?

 

[FN FAL]

If you take a 1500 hour male and a 1500 hour female pilot, same age....the female pilot is definitely at least 8 times less likely to be involved in an incident/accident. The male pilot is out flying single pilot freight, the female pilot is sitting in the right seat at a Major with 10,000 hour Captains...isn't that safer?


I JUST SAID WHAT YOU ALL WERE THINKING!




For those of you that took the above seriously...relax...get outdoors more...I was just kidding! Just helping perpetuate the stereotype..

I can laugh with what you are saying. Not because I am sexist, but because I think Andrew Dice Clay is funny.

Oooops!

I don't think females are safer or less or more of pilot than everyone else...I think there is an environment issue. Untill there is an equalization, there always will be an environment issue.

 

[Sarka]

I think there is an environment issue. Untill there is an equalization, there always will be an environment issue.

Funny, FN FAL, you don't strike me as an environmentalist.

 

[Goose Egg]

I'm not going to comment on the safety (or lack thereof) of female pilots. But I will say this: I have sworn off dating female pilots--my worlds would collide. Gotta keep the woman stuff separate from the airplane stuff.

For what it is worth, some of the best flight instructors I know are female.

Goose

 

[belchfire]

Let's see...Royal Air Force Ferry
Command...I wonder how many
of those "accidents" were macho
dudes right out of a Moth seeing
if they too could loop a Lancaster?

I have had the honor of flying with
some fine pilots of the fair sex, both
as their FO or CA. There have been
a few along the way that scared the
$hit outta me...kind of like some of
the guys I've flown with. There was
one that had more attitude than any
four of our males in our roster.

There are three kinds of lies.
1) Lies
2) D@mn Lies
3) Statistics

Withstanding G loading is largely a
matter of training and physical condition.
Believe it or not, pre-G-suits pilots
routienly pulled 6-7 g...I've done it.
Don't think I could do it now, to outta
shape. When VC-71 was issued g suits
to go with their Wildcats, one of the
guys went out and pulled 13g's...bent
the plane, but the little 'cat made it
back to the ship. I don't think that
the guys/gals doing competitive
aerobatics are wearing suits...how
about running your tests on them?

How about finding us statistical "evidence"
about male vs female accident rates
in 121 and 135 flying.

The whole arguement is bull$hit!

High flamebait factor though!

 

[Texasskicker]

Les vs. Gay

I have found that lesbian females make much better pilots than gay guys.

Feedback anyone?

 

[DX Rick]

I couldn't agree more...

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For what it is worth, some of the best flight instructors I know are female.

Goose[/QUOTE]
I knew two female instructors that were awesome. I think it's because teaching comes more naturally to females.

 

[bigD]

Interestingly, I've also flown with eleven female pilots over the years. I certainly wouldn't have a problem flying with any them. Three of those eleven were my private, instrument, and commercial (single) instructors. So of course, to make any negative comments about how women fly would be essentially saying the same thing about how *I* fly.

If had to make any generalizations, it'd be that the females I've flown with tend to be more conservative in their decision making. Since a pretty high percentage of GA accidents are at least partly due to errors in judgement, I could see women being a bit safer. 8x safer? That seems a little excessive though.

 

[A Squared]

Let's see...Royal Air Force Ferry
Command...I wonder how many
of those "accidents" were macho
dudes right out of a Moth seeing
if they too could loop a Lancaster?

That's a thought, but Rick is actually referring, not to the "RAF ferry command" (I don't think that existed), but to the the the Air Transport Auxilliary which was civillian men and women ferrying aircraft to free up RAF pilots for combat. At any rate Rick fails to back up this claim any sort of a verifiable reference, just his assertion that the data does exist and that it shows women are 8 times safer than men. Never mind the fallacy of taking the statistics of 166 women and extrapolating that to a sweeping generalization about all women pilots a half a century later.

How about finding us statistical "evidence"
about male vs female accident rates
in 121 and 135 flying.

Actually, the discussion in the second link contains exactly that. They don't support Mr Durden's claim at all. They are informal statistics, but they are more than durden is able to produce.

 

[DX Rick]

Woah!

That's a thought, but Rick is actually referring, not to the "RAF ferry command" (I don't think that existed), but to the the the Air Transport Auxilliary which was civillian men and women ferrying aircraft to free up RAF pilots for combat. At any rate Rick fails to back up this claim any sort of a verifiable reference, just his assertion that the data does exist and that it shows women are 8 times safer than men. Never mind the fallacy of taking the statistics of 166 women and extrapolating that to a sweeping generalization about all women pilots a half a century later.


Actually, the discussion in the second link contains exactly that. They don't support Mr Durden's claim at all. They are informal statistics, but they are more than durden is able to produce.

Are you talking about me, or is the other guys name Rick?

 

[A Squared]

>>>>>Are you talking about me, or is the other guys name Rick?

Oh, sorry, the columnist in question is Rick Durden, no reference to you.

 

[100LL... Again!]

Good point-


You would need to do a strict comparison depending on type of flying position, regional weather issues.

United FO, or cappyy third rate carrier dog-tired CA?

Freight dog in the Appalachians or freight dog in the desert southwest.

I see too many statistical traps to really answer this easily.

Also, the very different number of female vs male pilots probably would make meaningful statistical comparisons nearly impossible.

 

[Chronic Jetlag]

I can only speak from personal experience and I'll give credit where credit is due. 1>Flying into LAX during rush hours, the PF (female pilot) after multiple runway changes turned the wrong way and would have landed on the wrong runway had I not intervened. 2>Climbing out of JFK and given an intermediate level off at FL 200, the PF (female pilot) blew through her altitude and I had to intervene. 3> Cleared for the visual into CVG landing north the PF (female pilot) was high and fast and I had to intervene. 90% of the female pilots I've flown with are subpar and weak. However I will say I have flown with ONE female pilot who was a good pilot and a great stick. Overall, it's 90% the wrong stuff and 10% the right stuff.

 

[aviatornick]

i can agree with the statement that women are better cfi's. throughout my 4 years of college there were 5 girls in my class. 1 out of those 5 are still flying today. the 4 that aren't flying stopped b/c they couldn't take the pressure of check rides. in class, these women were book smart like you wouldn't believe, aced every test. stick em in an airplane, ask them to do a single engine ils, they poop their pants and give up. this is just my experience. sorry if i offended anyone!