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http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061215/NEWS01/612150310/1009&theme

Airlines ask breast-feeding charges to be dismissed

Published: Friday, December 15, 2006
By Sky Barsch
Free Press Staff Writer

The two airlines involved in an incident that saw a mother kicked off a plane in Burlington in October for breast-feeding have asked the Vermont Human Rights Commission to throw out complaints against them.

Emily Gillette of New Mexico filed a complaint with the commission last month. She claimed a flight attendant for Freedom Airlines, operating a commuter flight for Delta Air Lines, had her and her family removed from a flight awaiting departure on the tarmac at Burlington International Airport after Gillette refused to cover up while breast-feeding. Gillette is arguing that her civil rights were violated because breast-feeding is a right protected by Vermont's Public Accommodations Law.

Freedom Airlines argued in a Monday letter to the Human Rights Commission that the federal Airlines Deregulation Act trumps Vermont's human rights law, because state law cannot interfere with air carrier service.

"Freedom denies having discriminated against the Charging party in any manner whatsoever and specifically denies that any violation of the Vermont Fair Housing and Accommodations Act ... has occurred," Freedom wrote in its response, which was provided by Gillette's Manchester attorney, Elizabeth Boepple. The airline, a subsidiary of Mesa Air Group, asked that the complaint be dismissed.

Delta Air Lines says that the attendant acted contrary to its policies, but that she was acting as a Freedom Airlines employee, not as an employee of Delta. Delta also asked that the complaint be dismissed.

Delta spokeswoman Gina Laughlin said Thursday afternoon that she would let the filing speak for itself, but wanted to reiterate that Delta "fully supports a mother's right to breast-feed on board our aircraft and that we were disappointed that the decision was made to remove our customer from the airplane."

Freedom Airlines spokesman Paul Skellon did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

"My reaction to their argument is that they have not cited that there is any law to show that there is a federal pre-emption over a state law that establishes a civil right for a breast-feeding mother," Boepple said.

Gillette said she was discreetly breast-feeding her daughter when a flight attendant ordered her to cover up. Gillette refused, and the attendant allegedly said she was offended and had the Gillettes removed from the plane.

The airlines have said the attendant acted contrary to company expectations and was disciplined.

The incident has garnered national and international attention, prompting a "nurse-in" at several airports across the country last month.

Robert Appel, executive director of the Vermont Human Rights Commission, cannot say whether complaints are filed with his office unless the commission determines that human rights laws were violated.

In general, investigations take between three months and a year, he said. While he couldn't confirm Gillette's complaint, he said there has not been another breast-feeding complaint filed with the Human Rights Commission since the law went into effect in 2003.
Contact Sky Barsch at [email protected] or 660-1861.
 
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If she would have covered up there wouldnt have been a problem. Have some common courtesy.

That is the one thing that all parties involved agree on...she was covered up and nursing disreetly. She was sitting in a window seat with her husband next to her. The problem here is the ignorant and self righteous FA.

Ubabe OUT!
 
If she would have covered up there wouldnt have been a problem. Have some common courtesy.

I know, I mean the nerve of some people to actually feed babies in public! Just disgusting. What is this world coming to?






[Diclaimer for the dumb: The above post is, in its entirety, sarcastic.]
 
someone who properly cares for thier child, that's who.

Yeah, well pump at home and bring it in a bottle. I'm not saying you shouldn't have "the right" to. If someone wants to do it, that's fine. I would be embarassed sticking my boob out for all the world to see.
 
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give me a break!!! She was in the back of the plane and being discreet. What a repressed country we have when you can see celebrities basically letting it all hang out, and a mom feeding her baby creates this stir. if you want to fight for something, fight for decency in the media so that our daughters have a fighting chance to have a healthy image of themselves.
 
I little research show this woman is a trailer-trash-hoe looking for a quick buck. The appropriate child welfare authories are looking into child endangerment charges for exposing her child to the hazardous bacteria onboard Freedom airplanes.
 
From what I have just researched, breast feeding has been happening for quite some time. Kudos to those who are finally standing up against this unnatural act.
 
Hey Joe:

Read the profile,,,, she's a chick! :)

So, I guess the answer is,,,,,,,,,,,


By the way, Capt. Megadeath,,, if you wish to show me,, I'll let you know if you should be embarassed.

Hung
 
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give me a break!!! She was in the back of the plane and being discreet. What a repressed country we have when you can see celebrities basically letting it all hang out, and a mom feeding her baby creates this stir. if you want to fight for something, fight for decency in the media so that our daughters have a fighting chance to have a healthy image of themselves.

word.
 
I would be embarassed sticking my boob out for all the world to see.

Re-read my post...everyone agrees that she was not exposed. The FA seemed to be offended at the act not at anything that was seen.

BTW Props to SkyKing for having his head on straight about this issue!
 
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Idiot.....look how old the baby was you liberal weenie ! Geez !


i'm hardly liberal, 2 years old is on the high side of the breast feeding spectrum but perfectly normal. how do you turn a mother's right to nourish her child into a political ideology? we americans need to shake our puritan roots, there is nothing wrong with breastfeeding. in fact, there is something very wrong in giving your child formula unless the mother is ill.
 
Idiot.....look how old the baby was you liberal weenie ! Geez !

Despite your "expert" commentary breastfeeding to two years is not uncommon and is not the exclusive domain of liberals either. Check out the World Health Organization or the American Association of Pediatrics position on breastfeeding and you will see that breastfeeding to two years is recommended by both. Don't get me wrong I like talking about boobies as much as anyone but this is an issue that is misunderstood and that mother had no reason to be kicked off a plane for what she was doing.
 
Hey Joe:

Read the profile,,,, she's a chick! :)

So, I guess the answer is,,,,,,,,,,,


By the way, Capt. Megadeath,,, if you wish to show me,, I'll let you know if you should be embarassed.

Hung
I will always admit when I'm wrong and I sure was. I was absolutely wrong for assuming (don't go there) that a profile name like Capt. Megadeath belonged to a man. It was admittedly sexist and I'm sure I will make the same mistake in the future, given the same circumstances.

(No offense Cpt. M, your name and avatar both rock)

I do however, wish to change my original statement from:

"Dude, you have a boob?"

to

"DUDE, you have a BOOB!....How YOU doin?"

Happy Hanukkah.

-JP
 
I will always admit when I'm wrong and I sure was. I was absolutely wrong for assuming (don't go there) that a profile name like Capt. Megadeath belonged to a man. It was admittedly sexist and I'm sure I will make the same mistake in the future, given the same circumstances.

(No offense Cpt. M, your name and avatar both rock)

I do however, wish to change my original statement from:

"Dude, you have a boob?"

to

"DUDE, you have a BOOB!....How YOU doin?"

Happy Hanukkah.

-JP

Brilliant recovery! Kudos to you sir...er...dude....er aviator.
 
Funny thing is, I normally LIKE talking about the boobies . . .

What's not to like? Boobies are multi-purpose. My bet is the freedumb fa was jelouse-regardless of gender-as well as fracking ignorant.

Megadeath, no one says you have to breast feed at all if you ever have kids. There is substantial medical evidence that it is better for the kid though. Given the current attitude of the TSA toward liquids in specific and their ignorance in general I think the mom made a good choice using the natural packaging. Also some kids that have been fed naturally regect rubber nipples regardless of what is coming out of them...they do know the difference!

I wonder if the CA of the flight was involved in this farce at all. Good thing it wasn't something I was involved with because the FA would have gotten written up and replaced like a bad tire and those folks would have gone-maybe a little late due to replacement of the stupid FA...

unless there was something else going on that we aren't hearing about...which is highly possible in this business.
 
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Brilliant recovery! Kudos to you sir...er...dude....er aviator.
RS, even though I ALWAYS taught my students that you (well, actually your screen name) don't exist, thanks. It's good to know that every now and then I'm capable of turning my meaningless ramblings into coherent thought...

I just realized a couple of things:

1. I made my 300th post a few days ago.

2. My 300th post was about boobs.

Sweet!

Happy Yule.

-JP
 
Given the current attitude of the TSA toward liquids in specific and their ignorance in general I think the mom made a good choice using the natural packaging.

Good point.

Anyway, I don't think the lady should have been kicked off the flight.
 
Re-read my post...everyone agrees that she was not exposed. The FA seemed to be offended at the act not at anything that was seen.

BTW Props to SkyKing for having his head on straight about this issue!


Last week we had a down line flight. While waiting to board paxs I walked back to the cabin to talk to the IRO and he gave me the nod left so I took the bait and looked. There she sat dead asleep with the big gun hanging out for the world to see with the baby sleepng in her lap. Not a pretty sight! At the same moment I looked the flight attendant walks by me and says GOT MILK!
 
So freedom suspends the FA then turns around and argues that they are not at fault and don't have to comply with VA law. Maybe the FA can sue freedom.
 

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