APA/US MOU question

[Metrojet]

How did the MOU specifically define the POR date? Why should the pilots read into the MOU something that isn't there? If the black letter reading of the MOU states that the POR is the date the BK judge approves the merger (conditionally or otherwise) then that trigger has been met.

This could drag on forever with folks agreeing to redefine the intent of the MOU.

Sort of like agreeing to an arbitrator , and then trying to redefine the intent of Alpa merger policy, when clearly the results were not the intent of the policy ( unless you are referring to the UAL / CAL SLI which clearly stated that the provision of not including longevity in the US/AW was not a fair and equitable way of combining a list)

Or I see - you intial post was just a backward way of you throwing another insult to USAPA, as soon as someone tried to get you an answer to your question


Good luck on the proposed future SLI - or lets see how many new hires want to take PHX as a base bid

Metrojet

 

[Tweaker]

Jesus would you clowns stop QUOTING this pro grade clown?

Ignore list only works if you stop feeding the trolls!

 

[Carl S.]

Metro..still think the AWA/AAA list is unfair...that's so 2007...

 

[Metrojet]

Metro..still think the AWA/AAA list is unfair...that's so 2007...

Carl -

You do know there is a time limit on unclaimed lottery tickets in most state laws

Metrojet

 

[Guppiedriver]

( unless you are referring to the UAL / CAL SLI which clearly stated that the provision of not including longevity in the US/AW was not a fair and equitable way of combining a list)


Metrojet

The arbitrators in the UAL/CAL SLI said nothing of the sort. However, they did say this:

The biggest mistake a pilot group can make in thinking about the SLI process or in analyzing an award is to focus on one factor among the many used in building the ISL and use that as the sole determinant in judging the ?fairness? of the outcome of the integration. In the history of SLI cases, we have observed that pilot groups often did just that and stuck to extreme positions and thus effectively had little or no real input in the ISL Board?s work in building a list. When they do that, items that are important to them get lost along with the extreme positions they take on more fundamental issues. We have seen that most recently in America West/US Airways and Delta/Northwest, where the US Airways and Northwest Merger Committees each proposed Date-of-Hire integrations when there simply was no basis in the facts or in Merger Policy for that position. In those cases, the respective arbitration boards each issued awards that were patterned on the America West and Delta Committees? proposals and contained virtually nothing proposed by the other pilot group

 

[labbats]

We have seen that most recently in America West/US Airways and Delta/Northwest, where the US Airways and Northwest Merger Committees each proposed Date-of-Hire integrations when there simply was no basis in the facts or in Merger Policy for that position. In those cases, the respective arbitration boards each issued awards that were patterned on the America West and Delta Committees proposals and contained virtually nothing proposed by the other pilot group

Words to remember for certain.

 

[Turtle21]

We have seen that most recently in America West/US Airways and Delta/Northwest, where the US Airways and Northwest Merger Committees each proposed Date-of-Hire integrations when there simply was no basis in the facts or in Merger Policy for that position. In those cases, the respective arbitration boards each issued awards that were patterned on the America West and Delta Committees proposals and contained virtually nothing proposed by the other pilot group

Words to remember for certain.

"contained virtually nothing proposed by the other pilot group".

What a load of crap. The side that argued against DOH contained nothing proposed by the group that did, and vice versus. The accusation is a red herring to justify what ever they want.

And ALPA sucks!

 

[Guppiedriver]

"contained virtually nothing proposed by the other pilot group".

What a load of crap. The side that argued against DOH contained nothing proposed by the group that did, and vice versus. The accusation is a red herring to justify what ever they want.

And ALPA sucks!

This is exactly why the west class needs its own seat at the SLI table. You knuckleheads will never learn from your mistakes and it is always someone else's fault.

 

[Turtle21]

this is exactly why the west class needs its own seat at the sli table. You knuckleheads will never learn from your mistakes and it is always someone else's fault.

:laugh::laugh:

 

[Bringupthebird]

This is exactly why the west class needs its own seat at the SLI table. You knuckleheads will never learn from your mistakes and it is always someone else's fault.

Especially when they extort money from fellow pilots to finance their mistake.

They sad thing is Turtle doesn't even know why he's laughing. Without his briefing from McKee, he's reduced to emoticons.

 

[Turtle21]

Especially when they extort money from fellow pilots to finance their mistake.

They sad thing is Turtle doesn't even know why he's laughing. Without his briefing from McKee, he's reduced to emoticons.

I am grateful to you for making your hatred of union folks personal. It makes it easy for me to know who to vote for. Please elaborate often. :laugh: