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AOPA legal services...worth it?

  • I'm on the plan and it's worth it (great way to CYA!)

    Votes: 48 56.5%
  • I'm on the plan but it's NOT worth it

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Not on the plan but feel it's worth the money/considering joining

    Votes: 16 18.8%
  • Not on the plan and I don't want to be

    Votes: 19 22.4%

  • Total voters
    85
You'll get more bang for your buck if you go with PrePaid Legal.

The AOPA plan has a clause which states that you're not covered for the appeal process. Nearly all enforcement action IS the appeal process...seeing as you're already convicted from the word go. Remember, you don't appeal enforcement action...you appeal the conviction, because you're guilty until proven innocent.

Consulting with an attorney in the very early stages should always be done, but if you're really up the creek, that's the small end of the stick compared to what it's going to cost to fight it...and you'll need a good legal plan for that. AOPA doesn't have a place for it. AOPA's is a fairly cheap insurace plan and may be of benifit if you don't have any legal issues about which to worry...but if you do it won't help you much.

Sort of like their life insurance...the one that doesn't cover you if you die in a light airplane mishap. Go figure...
 
You'll get more bang for your buck if you go with PrePaid Legal.

The AOPA plan has a clause which states that you're not covered for the appeal process. Nearly all enforcement action IS the appeal process...seeing as you're already convicted from the word go. Remember, you don't appeal enforcement action...you appeal the conviction, because you're guilty until proven innocent.

Consulting with an attorney in the very early stages should always be done, but if you're really up the creek, that's the small end of the stick compared to what it's going to cost to fight it...and you'll need a good legal plan for that. AOPA doesn't have a place for it. AOPA's is a fairly cheap insurace plan and may be of benifit if you don't have any legal issues about which to worry...but if you do it won't help you much.

Sort of like their life insurance...the one that doesn't cover you if you die in a light airplane mishap. Go figure...


Which pre-paid legal plan do you recommend?
 
http://www.prepaidlegal.com/

Depending on how much you're willing to spend (it's a fraction of what you'd spend if you ever need it),you can get hundreds of hours of legal representation by thousands of attorneys throughout the country, as well as plans that cover everything from your credit to identity theft.
 
I'm on the plan cuz the $20 gave me peace of mind.... but honestly I don't know if it's worth it

What's this about the AOPA strike?

It is. I had to use it once and I got a 300.00 per hour attorney for free. AOPA rocks.
 
The AOPA plan has a clause which states that you're not covered for the appeal process. Nearly all enforcement action IS the appeal process...seeing as you're already convicted from the word go. Remember, you don't appeal enforcement action...you appeal the conviction, because you're guilty until proven innocent.
Would you mind pointing out that clause? The one I'm familiar with covers the first 25 hours for the ALJ trial, and the first 15 hours of the review by the full NTSB on an 80%/20% basis with the pilot paying the 20% of the AOPA-reduced fees.
 
I cannot point out the clause, as I don't have the insurance. Perhaps the policy has changed. I had it (insurance and membership), read it, dismissed it as a waste, and got good legal coverage. If they're offering to cover you during your appeal now, that's great. In times past, that was NOT the case.
 
I don't think that obtaining plan coverage information requires membership. At least the url doesn't appear to be in the member only section.

http://www.aopa.org/info/certified/lsp_certificate.pdf

If not, here's the appeals language

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3. Representation in Appeals. For the following appeals from FAA enforcement actions described in A2 above, the Plan will pay 80%
of attorney fees incurred (you are obligated to pay the remaining 20%), at a rate of up to $152/hour, up to the hourly limits stated.
a. Appeal to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) at the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) level--Limit: 25 hours.
b. Appeal of an ALJ decision to the full NTSB--Limit: 15 hours.
c. A petition by the FAA for the judicial review of an NTSB Order--Limit: 50 hours.
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btw, the $152 recently went up to $167.
 
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