Anyone????

[deltamech]

Does anyone know of any company that is willing to hire a 260hr pilot? I just got my Commercial/Multi w/instruments and want to avoid the whole CFI thing and fly for someone pretty much anywhere.....preferably Georgia.

 

[ceo_of_the_sofa]

Yes, sir! Click here

You're welcome

 

[chrisdahut24]

Do you have $18,000?

 

[EagleRJ]

LOL!

I wonder if he has a Honda Civic type rating? That's necessary to be competetive in today's job market.

 

[deltamech]

Anyone??

I'm not talking about an airline!

 

[Dep676]

Wrong thread

I think this needs to be moved to another post. We know which one.

 

[cxcap]

Does anyone know of any company that is willing to hire a 260hr pilot? I just got my Commercial/Multi w/instruments and want to avoid the whole CFI thing and fly for someone pretty much anywhere.....preferably Georgia.

You might want to check with Delta. I heard they're hiring pilots with 250hrs straight into the left seat of the 777. They fly out of Atlanta too.

 

[350DRIVER]

Jet Blue, SWA, and Air Tran are hiring- may be worth a shot since you are still below 300TT.

Dunno about any other jobs that would allow you to commute.


good luck ( 0 )

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back to reality- YOU can expect to flight instruct if you want to get anywhere in this game.

 

[PositiveRate]

Classy guys, real classy.

Get a life. You were all 260hr pilots at one point.


For Deltamech,

Look into banner towing. Hang out at your local airport. Stranger things have happened than low timers getting hired on with cargo or part 91 operators.

Flight instructing is a great way to go, though, and you'll learn a lot in the process too. I don't think i would have ever matured to a professional level if i hadn't instructed.

Good luck.

 

[logolight]

Go the flight instructor way. Very few of us really wanted to do it but it was the only way to build the time. Remember, the airlines are not just looking for the ratings but they're looking mostly for the experience. Like the others have said, unless you're in the right place at the right time, the CFI is the most realistic way to get the time and experience right now.
Good luck.




"Speed mode, Heading, 1/2 bank..."

 

[generaltso]

It's easier to GET a job when you HAVE a job.

Get your CFI and start flight instructing. Just by hanging out at the airport, other things pop up.

 

[sfrex]

You guys are jerks!

Hi,

I don't think I've ever seen as much negativity as I did in this post. I think it's projection...any of you guys ever heard of that? It's where you take out your own percieved shorcomings, anger, frustration, on someone else. By the looks of it, most of the people who posted (especially that first guy), geez, you're all pretty low time pilots as well.

There are lots of opportunities for the pilot who asked the original question. The company I work for has an "internship" program where you basically fly pistons (some multi some se) and pick up customers who want to purchase aircraft, customers picking up a plane that was in maintenence, etc. You make min wage, but you can get some serious hours and learn how to deal with dispatchers, fuelers, line personel, the whole deal. It is great experience.

My advice to the original poster is this (and I'm not giving the advice as a pilot, but as a human resources professional): Go to charter companies, FBO's, and ESPECIALLY places that sell aircraft--preferably high end aircraft. Tell them your situation, act professional, and tell them you're willing to fly for free or minimum wage (I didn't say it would be easy). After about a year or so, you would have hours and a great reference, and I'd bet dollars to donuts they'd hire you. Happens all the time 'round here.

And don't listen to people who try to get you down. As I said, most of those types of people just want to put someone down to make themselves feel better about their current situation--to see someone else fail as they have.

Good luck!

 

[JohnDoe]

sfrex:


Here's a quote from "socalplt" from the thread you accidentally started.



"I'm not sure which post you were referring to, but how can you be "professional" and "fly for free or minimum wage"?"


Good question. Especially in regards to the "free" part.

 

[Timebuilder]

Since this is my only post so far in this thread, I must assume that it must be another thread that those "hiring professionals" found to be so funny. But be that as it may..

My advice to the original poster is this (and I'm not giving the advice as a pilot, but as a human resources professional): Go to charter companies, FBO's, and ESPECIALLY places that sell aircraft--preferably high end aircraft. Tell them your situation, act professional, and tell them you're willing to fly for free or minimum wage (I didn't say it would be easy).

Flying for free or minimum wage is professional? Perhaps in some counties in Nevada, this type of activity might be considered professional.

I don't see any negativity in the responses to the original poster, just a little good-natured fun being poked at the naivete of a 260 hour pilot hoping to bypass the "whole CFI thing".

Sure, all of us were once 260 pilots, but how many of us had spent over 260 hours of time in recent aviation experience and still have an expectation that a job outside of instructing might be available to a VERY low time pilot?

Now the PFT and fly for free schemes will always be with us, just as those who hatch these ideas and look on them as a viable and professional stepping stone to a good career.

In some twisted way, that IS funny.

 

[Timebuilder]

Maybe you need to have some exposure to other jobs, other industries to really put this in perspective.

A professional will not act to bring the industry down. You know that pizza driver thread? You can make more money delivering pizza than you can as a regional FO. Why? Because people are willing to let it happen. Short term thinking that tells the industry that pilots will do anything to fly. Then, we wonder why wages will buy only ramen noodles.

No one has to fly for minimum wage. I'll sell nails at Home Depot before I will sell my skills below the price of a corner B*.

So, there are multiple aspects to being a professional. I'm sure a lot of guys fly, think, and act as they perceive a professional pilot to be. They also have a choice to work for or not work for a mimimum wage operator. It may be a little more difficult to get that job, but you'll rise to the task, because you are a professional.

 

[Timebuilder]

Sorry if you feel insulted.

It IS greed that will bring down the industry. The greed of a flight department or school to pay minimum wage, taking advantage of young pilots like yourself who think they HAVE to work for that wage.

But greed is a two way street. If no one takes them up on it, then they'll have to pay a decent wage. This happend to the fast food operators near universities in Boston. They had to offer over $12/hr because students REFUSED to work for less.

You just have to say to yourself "I'm worth more".

 

[bobbysamd]

HAH!

Does anyone know of any company that is willing to hire a 260hr pilot? I just got my Commercial/Multi w/instruments and want to avoid the whole CFI thing and fly for someone pretty much anywhere.....preferably Georgia.

Maybe the question that should be asked is, are there any companies that are willing to hire 4000 hour pilots who have 3000 multi PIC, ATP, type ratings and 121 experience. Clearly, my point is there are legions of pilots who are more experienced than you who are looking for companies to hire them. Rotsa ruck getting the opportunity you want at 260 hours.

Maybe you believe that there is a pilot shortage. There is no pilot shortage. Fresh pilot graduates such as you have trouble finding jobs even in extremely good times. Even somewhat better-qualified pilots than you have trouble finding work and/or moving up the ladder.

For some reason, so many new pilots do not want to be flight instructors. I believe that it's because they had so much fun having their hands on the stick during training that they can't fathom the notion of someone else doing the flying, especially after they just spent so much money to learn. The practicality of the situation is there just are not many jobs for 260-hour pilots save for flight instructing. And even instructing jobs are in short supply and are hard to get. Flight instructing jobs are the easiest to get for new pilots because more experience is required for most non-instructing jobs. Also, so many people who do not want to instruct are competing for these jobs. Therefore, as a practical matter, you should consider getting a CFI. You'll go to work sooner. I second Tso's comments about instructing. You can meet some pretty helpful (to your career) people as a flight instructor.

I also second Timebuilder's comments about giving away one's services for free as being a form of professionalism. Even 260-hour pilots deserve to be paid.

Good luck with your plans.

 

[sf3boy]

My advice, get to flight instructing as soon as possible. While doing that, always be on the lookout for other types of flying such as 135 cargo, charter, corporate, etc...Flight instructing will give you some experience, but not enough in today's pilot market. You need have the experience of actually flying and not jusr talking while someone is doing touch and goes. Keep your eyes peeled and look around and be persistent and good luck to ya.