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huskerfan

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Hey all,
I'm curently a CFI/CFII in the Houston area. I am 50 hours short of my twin time goal. I have 1450TT, 50ME. If anyone in the country is looking for a safety pilot and is willing to let me log time in their twin PM me. I have flight benefits, so I am able to travel across the US. I also plan on getting my MEI in the next few weeks.
Thanks
 
you want multi in Houston? Drop meat...

Hey,

Instead of trying to mooch multi time, why not try to get a job? I mean, I know there are two DZs in the Houston Area, and both flying twin otters. Skydive Spaceland is flying a super twin otter at that. Nothing like turbine multi time.

Over in Beaumont, they have an outfit flying a queen air.

Like I said, it's better than riding right seat b*tch, and you'll learn a whole new respect for jump pilots. Also, if you've got the time, why not try to get in with Martinaire down in Victoria? They fly Caravans, but you can upgrade to the Convair from there. Just remember they carry an A&P with them for a reason :P

Anyway, take care, and good luck to ya.

One other thing...go to Galveston. There is a guy down there flying twin Commanches doing aerial pipeline patrol offshore and inland. They fly all the time, and like 6 hour sorties. They take it along way offshore. Pay is like 15/hr., but it's steady work.

Look around, there are opportunities all over Houston. Oh yeah, and you can thank me later for the tips
 
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Correction in Beaumont

There is no skydive operation in Beaumont using a Queen Air. The Queen Air is on a 135 certificate, and both are for sale.

The jumpers at BMT had a TwinBo but they crashed it last year. Only using a 182 with the occasional Twin Otter out of Houston. They had a Porter (PC-6?) coming out of Cal but it also ate some dirt.

Mosquito Control has some TwinBo's in nice yellow paint!
 
no problem

that's cool...didn't know the queenair wasn't the jump plane. Just wanted to give the guy some options. I can't imagine going to an interview with half my multi as a safety pilot, especially when there are some (if only a few) opportunities to build some quality time out there.

I'm not a multi guy myself, but all the same, quality is more important than quantity.
 
pilot_guy said:
Instead of trying to mooch multi time, why not try to get a job? I mean, I know there are two DZs in the Houston Area, and both flying twin otters. Skydive Spaceland is flying a super twin otter at that. Nothing like turbine multi time.

Like I said, it's better than riding right seat b*tch, and you'll learn a whole new respect for jump pilots.
You must not be a skydiver. As an experienced skydiver and pilot, I would not want somebody with 50 hours of multi flying any jump plane that I am in. There are certain DZ's I won't jump at because the pilots are too inexperienced and/or incompetent. Remember....pilots flying jumpers are usually taking off at gross weight, with 15-21 people in the back counting on them to be able to handle any problem.
 
skydiver? Who me? Stupid???

No buddy, I ain't stupid. You won't find me jumping out of any perfectly good airplanes, and before you say no airplane is perfectly good, as long as it has it's pieces, and it can glide, I ain't leaving it.

So no, I'm not a skydiver, but I am a jump pilot. Dropped lots of meat in a 182, enough to know that skydivers who aren't also pilots (and I'm not talking PPL), are about as bright as broken neon lights. They wanna do stupid sh!t like try to climb on the leading edge of the wing, etc.

But, as with all things, no one "knew" how to fly jumpers the first time. I flew quite a few flights with just the DZ owner and seasoned jumpers until I knew what was going on. So, if he can find someone who will train him, more power to him. It's valuable flight time, even if it is up and down all day. You learn how to control power, Vmc, etc.

I can understand your concern, and I appreciate the foresight, but if you've jumped long, you know that all DZs are Zoos to some extent. The owner is the only one making any real scratch, and you will be hard pressed to find one who follows the regs. Hey, welcome to aviation though, right?

I could go on for a long time about DZs, and DZ owners/ops...

Bottom line, Huskerfan, if you can get the job, take it. If you don't bend the airframe over the summer, more power to ya, and then move on to greener pastures. It's a stepping stone, like anything else.

If they wanted a "professional jump pilot", they'd pay more than 5 or 6 bucks a load. Actually, the guys who do that stuff full time are usually not very professional, and usually aren't instr. rated, etc...and more than willing to bust clouds, not announce when they come in, etc.

...Besides, you can always sit back an' laugh at the carnie trash that shows up to jump. It's like gypsies, hippies, and surfers, only worse.
 
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Just so you all know, I'm not trying to mooch multi-time. Just trying to get enough to get an interview. I'm currently in the process of getting my MEI. As far as those outfits go, I've looked at most of them. The guy in Galveston has a waiting list until February, one of the dropzones has a few older guys they use that have a tonne of time and like doing it on the weekends. Plus I don't want to get hired with someone and leave them as soon as I get another 50 hours. You can say all you want about quantity vs quality, however it seems like Continental Express wants a hundred. From what I understand, they don't care if its safety pilot time or not. We can get into a huge debate about quantity vs quality, however the airlines specify minimums regardless of quality. Thats my take anyways.
 
hey Pilot Guy,

I thought your post was a tremendous help. The guy just asked for help like we all did or wanted to when we were in his shichation. I wish someone like yourself had been there to offer help. With the time you have, I would be inclinded to think you would be discouraging people from joining your ranks. You seem to have a positive stance, which is sometimes hard to do when you are just starting out.

I to did some DZ work in Htown(out of Wharton) and I couldn't agree more with your rant("Whats a rant"?) It was a mess, and I didn't know what I was doing for awhile. I quickly learned to keep to myself with the losers down there. I had a guy ask me if he could light a joint on the way out. I told him no, and sure enough right before he jumped out, what do you think I smelled. Funny thing was watching his stupid ass under canopy at 9500 with a CO 737 flying over him on an arrival into Houston(I think it was the Gland3). The equipment sucked and I am glad to be done. I should have flown more profesionally back them, but looking back I am glad I didn't. It was fun as h.ell.

To the guy looking for time, I would follow up and just drive out and bother these guys. It sounds like you are looking to make your regional minimums(I would go a different route) and I hope you make them.

One more lead. Try and find a guy in Pearland named Rick Edwards. He runs a Construction and Playground manufacturing outfit, called RTG Construction. He flies a 600 hp (5656K) Baron that is really nice(atleast it was in 2000.) Its a fun job but the pay sucks. If you have 6 months to fly for him, its well worth it. Lots of time down in the Keys, you'll do a lot of fishing, and a lot of First Mating.

Good luck to you, and Pilot guy thanks for helping out people who ask for it.

The Dude abides
 
pilot_guy said:
Also, if you've got the time, why not try to get in with Martinaire down in Victoria? They fly Caravans, but you can upgrade to the Convair from there. Just remember they carry an A&P with them for a reason.
ummm...are you referring to the Martinaire based out of Addison but with an aircraft stationed in Victoria? they are strictly a caravan operator...no twins in, on, or near the company.
 
Duderino said:
hey Pilot Guy,

I thought your post was a tremendous help.
I'm glad that you found it helpful. It's quite an excellent little piece of clip art.
 
pilot_guy said:
...Besides, you can always sit back an' laugh at the carnie trash that shows up to jump. It's like gypsies, hippies, and surfers, only worse.
Is that what you guys do...that's funny, cause me and the DZO laugh quite a bit at the fish faced 500 hour punks that show up and think they know how to fly a plane. We just sent a Riddle rat packing after he cost our DZ seven grand in prop repairs.

At the other drop zone I jumped and flew at, we sent a UND grad packing right after his check out...on the first flight he bent the prop and flexed fuselage and firewall. Funny think was, he kept telling our club president he wasn't pilot in command of the single yoke airplane when he porposed the nosewheel into the ground so hard the rim made marks 4 to 5 inches deep into the sod on the first strike. You know what, after thinking about it...he wasn't.

I don't know how you can show 600 hours and claim to have this huge amount of time dropping meat bombs, but you almost got enough time to get a job at our dropzone...we don't need anybody right now, but if we do, we'll call you...and don't forget to bring your knee pads, the bottom of the planes need a good degreasing.
 
Well Husker, just trying to give you some info. You're the one asking around, and riding right seat biatch, is moochin' :P

Duderino, thanks for the compliment man. As for me, I just watch the board now. I haven't flown in a long time, and have been away from any "serious" flying to get a job. I guess you could say I'm one of the "forgotten ones". I had to take a job outside of flying to live, but it's good to see other guys who were able to hang on long enough to make it.

Kinda like pro sports...lots of guys have the talent and the drive, but not everyone can make the cut. I just happened to run out of time and money. Just a bad time to start a career as a pilot I guess.

Later guys, I'm gonna go rub one out...

...oh yeah, and those might not have been Martinaire's Convairs, but they belonged to someone down in Victoria.

Hey FAL (piece of sh!t rifle btw...if you're gonna spend money, buy an STG-58, or an M-14. I can tell your lack of weapons knowledge. Keep watching movies, ok?) I can already see where you're coming from...typical skydive monkey.

I'm not a Riddle kid, or a UND grad....sorry, but my daddy didn't buy my wings. And I spent a whole summer dropping meat, and logged enough time to know that skydivers are real POS. A smart pilot just keeps to himself out at a DZ, makes sure the DZO doesn't force him into busting any regs., and keeps his ticket intact until the season is over.

Thanks but no thanks on the job offer, and I gave my kneepads to your wife. She said she wanted to give me a b!owjob to help with my unemployment.
 
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pilot_guy said:
Hey FAL (piece of sh!t rifle btw...if you're gonna spend money, buy an STG-58, or an M-14. I can tell your lack of weapons knowledge. Keep watching movies, ok?)
Is an M-14 a Title I rifle, or Title II rifle?
 
FN FAL said:
Is an M-14 a Title I rifle, or Title II rifle?
Well which is it? You're sitting here watching the thread like a little creep...you sould know which one it is...EXPERT!
 
Wtf?

Title 1 or Title 2? Hmmm, if you are referring to whether or not it is a Class III, then yes, it is, but so is a "real" FN-FAL.

Now, I don't know the title 1 or title 2 crap...must be up north in gun control land. All I know is down here in Texas, I can own anything I want, short of full-auto, without a Class III FFL.

So, I'd be referring to a "civilian" M1A, not the M-14. Even so, still leaps and bounds better than the FAL.
 
FN FAL said:
Is an M-14 a Title I rifle, or Title II rifle?
What's a matter "airsoft" boy, can't find the answer on google fast enough?
 
dude...you're not spazzing on me now, are ya?

Man, you're a pogue. I'll leave you alone now, cause you're getting waaaay too excited over this. Think you need to loose that gas check valve, before your op rod gets broken. lmao...later punk.
 
pilot_guy said:
Title 1 or Title 2? Hmmm, if you are referring to whether or not it is a Class III, then yes, it is, but so is a "real" FN-FAL.

Now, I don't know the title 1 or title 2 crap...must be up north in gun control land. All I know is down here in Texas, I can own anything I want, short of full-auto, without a Class III FFL.

So, I'd be referring to a "civilian" M1A, not the M-14. Even so, still leaps and bounds better than the FAL.
Title I and Title II are BATF classifications, not state classifications.

A machine gun is a Title II firearm, so is an SBS, SBR, AOW, suppressor or a destructive device. According to Federal Law, there is no requirement for an individual to possess a Class III dealers license to possess any of these Title II firearms.

Semiautos, lever actions, pump actions, bolt actions, revolvers, IE; stuff you can buy at a hardware store, K-mart, sportin goods store, or any other licensed FFL holder is a Title I firearm.

Class III is a license, Title II is a machine gun... if you're going to make remarks about what people are experts at, at least do your homework before you play yourself.
 
taking this sh!t a little too serious

Like I said pal, or was it fal? Anyway, you need to calm down a little. I think you've been out in the bush too long, or atleast, you want people to think you have been. Actually, I'm certain that's what it really is.

You're just a pogue, and nothing more can be said...you'll continue to post long after this, because you have no life. Me? I like screwing with morons like you, cause you've "seen it all", "done it all", and the fact is, you don't know squat. So you got me on a reg. I still know the spirit of the law, and that's all that matters.

Take care, and go back to your paramilitary wannabes, ok? Maybe you can scare some cubscouts our something, or maybe the security guard at the Piggly Wiggly. I know you can do it, just try really hard, and you'll be big and tough like the other kids one day too, ok?

Run along and play now timmy, and take lassie with you.
 
pilot_guy said:
So you got me on a reg. I still know the spirit of the law, and that's all that matters.
The spirit of the law? Hahaha...there's people doing 20 years with no chance of parole, cause they knew the SPIRIT of the law. Don't take it too hard, police don't even know their own laws...but you're way off base with the para-millitary crap. That's usually a bunch of Ruger Mini 14 and look alike AR-15 guys down in Texas, Michigan and Illinois, that play that game.
 
Guns?

We arguing about fukcing guns?!?!

this is better than the comedy channel:rolleyes:

3 5 0

>>Iverson argued about "practice", "practice" man, we talking about "practice"?.:D :D
 
350DRIVER said:
Guns?

We arguing about fukcing guns?!?!

this is better than the comedy channel:rolleyes:

3 5 0

>>Iverson argued about "practice", "practice" man, we talking about "practice"?.:D :D
And another dumass opens up his freaking mouth.
 

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