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2000flyer

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First, I'm all for new jobs being posted, but did anyone read this whopper and wonder WTF?

Response in ( ) and bold text entered by me.

Qualifications:

To perform this job successfully, an individual must be able to perform each essential duty satisfactorily. The requirements listed below are representative of the knowledge, skill, and/or ability required. Reasonable accommodations may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions. (Huh?????)


Education and/or Experience:

Fifth year college or university program certificate; or two to four years related experience and/or training; or equivalent combination of education and experience. (Fifth year college??? Does that mean you're on the six year plan or half way to your Masters degree???)


Language Skills:

Ability to read, analyze, and interpret general business periodicals, professional journals, technical procedures, or governmental regulations. Ability to write reports, business correspondence, and procedure manuals. Ability to effectively present information and respond to questions from groups of managers, clients, customers, and the general public.


Mathematical Skills:

Ability to calculate figures and amounts such as discounts, interest, commissions, proportions, percentages, area, circumference, and volume. Ability to apply concepts of basic algebra and geometry. (Oh...ok...Math Major!!!!! Which brings me to the question, when in you're flying career have, on a given trip, had to figure out an area or circumference?)


Reasoning Ability:

Ability to define problems, collect data, establish facts, and draw valid conclusions. Ability to interpret an extensive variety of technical instructions in mathematical or diagram form and deal with several abstract and concrete variables. (Engineering major?????)


Computer Skills:

To perform this job successfully, an individual should have knowledge of the Internet and be familiar with Microsoft Office products, including, but not limited to, Word and Outlook. (Ahhhhhhh...Computer major!)


Certificates, Licenses, Registrations:

Valid Commercial Pilot's license with airplane, multi-engine instrument rating.

Requires a minimum of 1,500 hours of flight experience, 500 hours of multi-engine Pilot-In-Command (PIC) and 100 hours turbine time.


Other Qualifications:

Must be available on-call for unexpected travel requests.


Physical Demands:

The physical demands described here are representative of those that must be met by an employee to successfully perform the essential functions of this job. Reasonable accommodations may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions. (There it is again!?!?!)

While performing the duties of this job, the employee is regularly required to use hands to finger, handle, or feel. (HUHHHHH...in my best Tim Allen voice!!) The employee is frequently required to walk; sit; reach with hands and arms and talk or hear. (Oh, you've got to be kidding me here!!!) The employee is occasionally required to stand; climb or balance and stoop, kneel, crouch, or crawl. (Can the applicant chew gum at the same time????) The employee must frequently lift and/or move up to 25 pounds. Specific vision abilities required by this job include close vision, distance vision, color vision, peripheral vision, depth perception and ability to adjust focus (No sh*t Sherlock!?!?!)


Work Environment:

The work environment characteristics described here are representative of those an employee encounters while performing the essential functions of this job. (Yes, most of my passenger ask me to figure the area of their foreheads while fully appreciating the fact that I'm able to listen to them while standing, then crouching to pick up their laptop that they dropped when I answered the area question wrong!!!) Reasonable accommodations may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions. (OK, REALLY NOW, WHAT DISABILITIES ARE THEY GETTING AT?????)

While performing the duties of this Job, the employee is frequently exposed to outside weather conditions. The employee is occasionally exposed to moving mechanical parts; high, precarious places and vibration. The noise level in the work environment is usually loud. (Oh, now you're just trying to be funny) :D:D:D
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I lost out because I only have a four year degree!

Get real people. Let the chief pilot write the help wanted ad and leave HR and legal to play with each other in their own sandbox!

2000Flyer
 
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Hey 2K ...

The sad part of this job description is that the lowest of the required qualifications and skills pertain to the candidate's aviation / flight experience. This company wants an Astronaut with a Master Degree in Mathematics or Engineering. I'm sure the pay is commensurate with that of a CFI (no disrespect intended to the instructor community. I instructed for 4 years myself). This is typical of the trends I've been seeing lately. I'm looking forward to a supply & demand shift someday soon :)
 
Have to protect company.

The mighty lawsuit makes companies go through posting like above to protect themselves against lawsuits by people who are not hired. This company could have been bitten in the past by not hiring disabled person.
 
Does it count if I was once able to do all that math stuff, but have since forgotten how since it in no way applies to flying an airplane? Yeah, definitely some lawyers involved in that one.

Fifth-year college experience? WTF? I realize some people take that long to finish, and there's nothing wrong with that, but since when does that extra year count more towards a job?
 
Mathematical Skills:

Ability to calculate figures and amounts such as discounts, interest, commissions, proportions, percentages, area, circumference, and volume. Ability to apply concepts of basic algebra and geometry. (Oh...ok...Math Major!!!!! Which brings me to the question, when in you're flying career have, on a given trip, had to figure out an area or circumference?)


While performing the duties of this job, the employee is regularly required to use hands to finger, handle, or feel. (HUHHHHH...in my best Tim Allen voice!!) The employee is frequently required to walk; sit; reach with hands and arms and talk or hear. (Oh, you've got to be kidding me here!!!) The employee is occasionally required to stand; climb or balance and stoop, kneel, crouch, or crawl. (Can the applicant chew gum at the same time????) The employee must frequently lift and/or move up to 25 pounds. Specific vision abilities required by this job include close vision, distance vision, color vision, peripheral vision, depth perception and ability to adjust focus (No sh*t Sherlock!?!?!)



2000Flyer[/QUOTE]
I think the relevance of the math skills to a pilot position must be so the crew can figure out if a $5 pitcher is a better deal than $1 longnecks.

As far as the physical requirements...well they just mak flying an airplane sound like such a bizzare activity what with all this feeling and fingering and crawling.
 
lol....not looking for just another dumb jet jockey


heheheh
 
2000flyer said:
First, I'm all for new jobs being posted, but did anyone read this whopper and wonder WTF?

Response in ( ) and bold text entered by me.

Qualifications:

To perform this job successfully, an individual must be able to perform each essential duty satisfactorily. The requirements listed below are representative of the knowledge, skill, and/or ability required. Reasonable accommodations may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions. (Huh?????)


Education and/or Experience:

Fifth year college or university program certificate; or two to four years related experience and/or training; or equivalent combination of education and experience. (Fifth year college??? Does that mean you're on the six year plan or half way to your Masters degree???)


Language Skills:

Ability to read, analyze, and interpret general business periodicals, professional journals, technical procedures, or governmental regulations. Ability to write reports, business correspondence, and procedure manuals. Ability to effectively present information and respond to questions from groups of managers, clients, customers, and the general public.


Mathematical Skills:

Ability to calculate figures and amounts such as discounts, interest, commissions, proportions, percentages, area, circumference, and volume. Ability to apply concepts of basic algebra and geometry. (Oh...ok...Math Major!!!!! Which brings me to the question, when in you're flying career have, on a given trip, had to figure out an area or circumference?)


Reasoning Ability:

Ability to define problems, collect data, establish facts, and draw valid conclusions. Ability to interpret an extensive variety of technical instructions in mathematical or diagram form and deal with several abstract and concrete variables. (Engineering major?????)


Computer Skills:

To perform this job successfully, an individual should have knowledge of the Internet and be familiar with Microsoft Office products, including, but not limited to, Word and Outlook. (Ahhhhhhh...Computer major!)


Certificates, Licenses, Registrations:

Valid Commercial Pilot's license with airplane, multi-engine instrument rating.

Requires a minimum of 1,500 hours of flight experience, 500 hours of multi-engine Pilot-In-Command (PIC) and 100 hours turbine time.


Other Qualifications:

Must be available on-call for unexpected travel requests.


Physical Demands:

The physical demands described here are representative of those that must be met by an employee to successfully perform the essential functions of this job. Reasonable accommodations may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions. (There it is again!?!?!)

While performing the duties of this job, the employee is regularly required to use hands to finger, handle, or feel. (HUHHHHH...in my best Tim Allen voice!!) The employee is frequently required to walk; sit; reach with hands and arms and talk or hear. (Oh, you've got to be kidding me here!!!) The employee is occasionally required to stand; climb or balance and stoop, kneel, crouch, or crawl. (Can the applicant chew gum at the same time????) The employee must frequently lift and/or move up to 25 pounds. Specific vision abilities required by this job include close vision, distance vision, color vision, peripheral vision, depth perception and ability to adjust focus (No sh*t Sherlock!?!?!)


Work Environment:

The work environment characteristics described here are representative of those an employee encounters while performing the essential functions of this job. (Yes, most of my passenger ask me to figure the area of their foreheads while fully appreciating the fact that I'm able to listen to them while standing, then crouching to pick up their laptop that they dropped when I answered the area question wrong!!!) Reasonable accommodations may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions. (OK, REALLY NOW, WHAT DISABILITIES ARE THEY GETTING AT?????)

While performing the duties of this Job, the employee is frequently exposed to outside weather conditions. The employee is occasionally exposed to moving mechanical parts; high, precarious places and vibration. The noise level in the work environment is usually loud. (Oh, now you're just trying to be funny) :D:D:D
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I lost out because I only have a four year degree!

Get real people. Let the chief pilot write the help wanted ad and leave HR and legal to play with each other in their own sandbox!

2000Flyer
Im sorry got to obey the voices on this one....... heheheheeeh

Was it perchance a position with Dassault "Flight" test???
 
Flyinjunk said:
Im sorry got to obey the voices on this one....... heheheheeeh

Was it perchance a position with Dassault "Flight" test???
No, because the add said that the applicant would be exposed to high levels of noise. Anyone who has sat in the front of a Dassault (modern) would know that the last thing that you would hear in Dassault is noise .... unless it is those pesky voices.
 
Engineering

The Engineering course loads at major universities these days, and for a long time actually, usually put you on the five year plan.
 

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