Anyone else loathe studying?

[Northern Lights]

Mini.

That examiner needs a reality check! Especially if you are at the CFI level. If you can explain it, and give a basic drawing, that should be good enough. If you were actually with a student, you would pull out the POH and have the exact drawing, free of errors right there in front of you. I always told my CFI students to bring every reference source they could carry to the checkride, just in case they had to back up an answer or clarify something.

 

[minitour]

hmm...well...

Thanks for confirming what I was thinking...that kinda makes me feel a bit better .

Anyone know a good way to learn to draw the systems exactly as drawn in the POH? I guess committing the Airworthiness/Registration certificate to memory won't be too hard...just another memory thing...it just seems so trivial, but...

Oh well...there's at least 2 here that are like this.

Giving an instrument ride the other day, the other guy (after takeoff) asked the kid, "so what would you do if you experienced a compressor stall right now?".

The kid had no idea what a compressor stall was...he's flying a freakin 172!

Ah...thanks for letting me vent again...

-mini

 

[User546]

Giving an instrument ride the other day, the other guy (after takeoff) asked the kid, "so what would you do if you experienced a compressor stall right now?".

The kid had no idea what a compressor stall was...he's flying a freakin 172!

You've got to be kidding me.... What a total Tool that guy is.

He probably rode right seat in a jet for 20 minutes one time, and now wants everyone to know that he knows all things turbine.

 

[minitour]

You've got to be kidding me.... What a total Tool that guy is.

He probably rode right seat in a jet for 20 minutes one time, and now wants everyone to know that he knows all things turbine.

well I'll at least give him credit for not busting the kid on it...as though a checkride isnt nerve-wracking enough, the kid was probably thinking "I didn't know something and we just took off!?!"

actually about a month ago there was a Global Express in here...the CA took a bunch of folks from the flight school and he was one...

I guess he looked like a total ass...

At one point he said "oh so it's not like the airlines" and the CA replied "we take pride in not being like the airlines" or something like that...

I wish I could have been there...

-mini

 

[User546]

Your darn right he didn't bust that kid on it. That would've went over like a lead baloon with the Chief Pilot! Busted a kid in a 172 on an instrument checkride for not knowing what a compressor stall was!

Sounds like the CA handed it to him though with his reply! That'd been great to witness!

 

[UGAflyer]

at least you're studying flying...you could be studying for 3 economics, a real estate and a psychology class...there is always somebody that has it worse

 

[minitour]

at least you're studying flying...you could be studying for 3 economics, a real estate and a psychology class...there is always somebody that has it worse

That's next.

First - get the ratings I can (fun)
Second - get the four year degree (responsible)
Third - Start flying three days a month for 120k a year....that's what airline pilots do right? (facetious)

-mini

 

[MTpilot]

Crazy!

I can't believe they want you to memorize the airworthiness certifacte. What for, even on a ramp check all you would do is hand it to the guy. As far as DE's go they can vary quite a bit, there seems to be three kinds: those that are in it for the money, those that are in it for the ego and those that are in it because they actually give a sh-t, you want to find one of the latter. We are lucky to have one like that here.

 

[User546]

...and those that are in it because they actually give a sh-t, you want to find one of the latter.

Absolutely! I took the majority of my checkrides with a guy who was a captain for a major airline, and he gave checkrides "real-world" style.

Everything he would ask was real world, and every point he would make or question he'd ask he'd back it up with why it was beneficial. All he wanted was to make pilots as safe as possible and get the big picture and not just the FAA/PTS picture. Everything he did was for a reason, and he looked for safety and judgement above proficiency (although you still had to be!).

Like he told me one time: "If I'm going to sign a license that certifies you to be up there flying around in the same airspace as me and my 200 passengers, I want to make darn sure that you know what your doing - for both yourself and myself."

I learned more from that guy thru my plethora of checkrides then I ever could've learned from an instructor or reading any FAA publication.

 

[minitour]

Everything he would ask was real world, and every point he would make or question he'd ask he'd back it up with why it was beneficial. All he wanted was to make pilots as safe as possible and get the big picture and not just the FAA/PTS picture. Everything he did was for a reason, and he looked for safety and judgement above proficiency (although you still had to be!).

The way it should (or at least I wish it would) be.

-mini

 

[Ralgha]

That DE is full of it. Except possibly for the system diagrams. You shouldn't have to draw them exactly like the book, but often the book has a pretty efficient way to draw it without leaving anything out. Again though, you shouldn't need to draw in every little detail on some of the systems. Who cares if you know where every cap is in the electrical system.