Any ex or current Weather Mod pilots here?

[414Flyer]

What project(s) did you fly? What are you doing now?

Edwards acquifer (Hondo) 2001. Cessna 340
Currently India rainfall project. Cheyenne II

 

[EagleRJ]

Oklahoma hail suppression 1997- KPWA- C-340 and PA-31T
High Plains Texas 1997- C-340

Currently: Managing Director in high-speed aluminum tubing for American Beagle Freightlines

How is the pay/ benefits/ quality of life living in India? Do Pat or Jim ever go out there? I thought about doing the Argentina project after the '97 season, but decided against it.

 

[414Flyer]

Jim was here this week. Pay here in India is pretty good actually. Not quite airtanker pay, but still not bad at all. Two of us "captains" per plane, with Indian copilots. QOL? Well, haha, lets just say I wont take a lot of things for granted when I get back, and I think I will have had now about every intestinal ailment there is to have

 

[TonyC]

I've got a buddy who's been asking me about getting his son in the business. He's fairly well off, and is willing to finance his son's career if it's the "right thing" to do. I couldn't answer this question, so I'm booting it to the forum for discussion.


What are your feelings about Shupert's Pay-To-Spray program?

 

[snow-back]

NDCMP - 4 summers between 1988 and 1994
Izmir, Turkey - 1993-94
Istanbul - 1993
Izmir - 1992-93
Thessaloniki, Greece (with CIC) - 1992

Currently hoping for the best at Delta.

SB

 

[H2OK9]

ex wmi pilot

I flew the 2000 season out of woodward, ok city, pampa and ama. a great bunch of guys...hey walt, hoss, jeff, renae!

 

[RipCurl]

Funny you should post this. I just started looking into an internship offered at my university having to do with weather mod... I think they fly 402s. Seems like a good way to learn a lot about weather in a hurry, and get some twin time to boot.

 

[FreightGuyNTX]

I flew the High plains project in 99, AMA, Oklahoma in late 99, PWA, Santa Barbara over the winter 99/2000, then Edwards in 2000 out of Hondo TX.

If Snow Back is who I think he is, he helped get me the job with Weather Mod.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Ferried a DHC-6/300 to Thailand with a big a$$ hopper tank in the back for cloud seeding. Didn't do any of the actual work, just delivered the plane. Didn't sound like fun.

 

[snow-back]

I flew the High plains project in 99, AMA, Oklahoma in late 99, PWA, Santa Barbara over the winter 99/2000, then Edwards in 2000 out of Hondo TX.

If Snow Back is who I think he is, he helped get me the job with Weather Mod.

Could be. I think we met on this board many moons ago. If it WAS me, I hope I didn't run your life by making you a Wx Mod junkie!

T

 

[414Flyer]

I flew the High plains project in 99, AMA, Oklahoma in late 99, PWA, Santa Barbara over the winter 99/2000, then Edwards in 2000 out of Hondo TX.

If Snow Back is who I think he is, he helped get me the job with Weather Mod.

Are your initals SM and are/were you flying the san antonio sewer piper in 2001?? I think I know who you are, but that night all of us WxMod pilots were on the riverwalk in apr 2001 one is kinda blurry.

 

[FreightGuyNTX]

Yep, that's me, and I had a great time working for WMI. I still say Hans is the best boss I've worked for so far in aviation.

 

[pilot_guy]

tried it out...

I worked for the SOAR Program (Plains, Texas)...for about a week. Gotta give it to you guys, cause it's definately not what we've been trained to do. I flew base seeding in a Commanche 250 with burn in place flares, flying around, looking for inflow. Craziest $hit I've ever done.

Got back one day and started noticing loose rivets, thought it was time to come home. Just wasn't for me. The people were some of the best to work for though, and I actually felt guilty to leave, but I couldn't convince myself to keep going. Just too **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** violent for my tastes, and I like my rivets well seated.

 

[414Flyer]

WMI needs some pilots for some overseas work. Lear-35 , or Cheyenne, or C-90 experience would be great.

 

[avbug]

Presently WMIs web site is only listing openings for an electrical technician. Are they taking temp assignments for the LR or KA?

 

[Famous Dave]

414, I am an alumni myself. 4 seasons in Alberta and 1 in North Dakota. What overseas project are we talking about?
Dave

 

[Kingair1181]

Currently flying a PA-24 250 down in Pecos TX (Trans Pecos Weather Mod) but working through the SOAR program out of Plains TX. I have built up around 200 hrs of flying this season (it was VERY VERY active in West Texas this year) and learned a ton.

Pilot_guy - I understand where you are coming from and I agree that base seeding can get a little crazy at times. I am probably in the same aircraft you were in albeit I think the MX has gotten better. I have accidently flown into some nasty hail, heavy turbulance, saw a funnel cloud, ect ect ect but after the initial few flights I became very comfortable up there and have really enjoyed me job. Although the down time sucks (only flew about 5 hrs one month) I think the flying has made me a much better pilot.

For those of you who have done Weather Mod for multiple seasons - what do you do in the off time or do you find year round projects? How also is the pay for 2nd or 3rd year guys, especially those flying the 340 or a Cheyenne? What kind of flight time are you avg. a year and did you ever find a company or outfit that provide any type of medical or any benefits? Thanks.

 

[414Flyer]

Avbug, usually its just year round jobs like mechanic or radar techs that get posted on that website.

Its a contract in Saudi coming up this fall, and I think there will be at least 3 planes there, a Lear 35, C-90 and Cheyenne. I do not know the particulars on it, like start/end dates, # of pilots, schedule and pay.

I flew for them first in 2001 in Hondo TX, pay was 3000 month for C-340 (half of it was paid nontaxable per diem). In India in 2004 with Cheyenne, PIC pay was 4000 mo plus 2600 per diem, and I worked every other day, pretty easy schedule. My pay for Mali Africa right now in the Cheyenne is higher still, but I work every day it seem, sometimes couple flights in a day.
So thats an example, Saudi pay will probably at least that of India, maybe higher.

There arent very many year round pilot opportunities in Weather Mod, although it does happen when they have enough work. I flew about 90 hours with the project in Hondo, about the same in India, but then I got to bring the plane back to Fargo from India too. I have already flown about 75 hours on the project here in Africa, and 25 helping to ferry it here.

 

[Famous Dave]

414, who is tunning the radar over there? Terry? Hoss?

 

[414Flyer]

414, who is tunning the radar over there? Terry? Hoss?

Its neither one of those two that was here. One guy from Alberta just showed up though, so the other guy can go to Saudi.

Now as for base seeding, I find base seeding a lot easier, and a bit less unnerving at times, than top seeding. With top seeding, you are getting iced up probably, punching into feeders and turrets, getting bounced around pretty good.

One of the guys who posted in this thread earlier is apparently on the way in the not too distant future to do a winter overseas project. Congrats.

 

[414Flyer]

I just talked to the guy who was my copilot in 2001 in Hondo Texas project. He flies F/A-18s in the Navy, and he did about 26 combat missions this year over Afghanistan and Iraq, including some very up close and person Close Air Support missions.

 

[414Flyer]

Thought it was time for another WMI pilots or alumni roll call. Every time I think I am out of the summer storm business, I get sucked back in. In Alberta this summer