Anti Bush read this ...

[Chas]

You people knock Bush a whole bunch but where were you when....
A) Clinton had the dubious distinction of being the first to lose the nuclear launch codes !
B)Clinton said Sadaam had WMD .
C) He was late in giving the go ahead to capture Bin Laden because he was watching a Golf Tournament
D) Oh and he authorized the bombing of an aspirin factory when Lewinsky was hitting the papers

Can we say DOUBLE STANDARD????

 

[Chunk]

Can you expound a bit on A...

B is right on...
C is inaccurate...
D...is right on


I can't stand Klinton, but let's be accurate. There's enough truth out there to hang him several times over, we don't have to make stuff up.

Chunk

 

[ShawnC]

Not sure if it was Clinton or not, don't know who did it because all I know is the year it happened, but one of them left the nuclear launch codes in his suit as it was sent to the cleaners.

 

[gOOfly]

Try this link: Click Here

 

[wil]

There is a book out written by the officer who carried the "Football" for the former President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton (remember Bush getting slammed for 4 names as "elitist". Ah, liberals!). Anyway, the book highlights the contempt the Clintons have for the military.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Oh and he authorized the bombing of an aspirin factory when Lewinsky was hitting the papers

...just like Bush authorized a war when the economy and corporate greed were hitting the papers.

What were you saying about a double standard?

I don't like Clinton, I don't like Bush. They're all crooks, and our country should be embarassed that this is the best we can do for leadership.

 

[Chas]

something real scary!

Could have been Al (Bore) Gore . iCouold you imagine Hillary???

 

[SDF2BUF2MCO]

Re: Re: Anti Bush read this ...

...just like Bush authorized a war when the economy and corporate greed were hitting the papers.

What were you saying about a double standard?

I don't like Clinton, I don't like Bush. They're all crooks, and our country should be embarassed that this is the best we can do for leadership.

Yep, it is like a professional wrestling match. National politics have become a fixed and staged event. The outcome was decided before the game even begun. It is a den of thieves. The Dems preach they're for the little guy and the working man yet they create such a tax burden and government regulation that American companies move their manufacturing to China. The Republicans claim they are for freedom and upholding the Constitution yet we have John Ashcroft, Tom Ridge and the Homeland (In)Security, and TSA. It is bigger than any of us.

 

[Brasgaucho]

At least we all had jobs during Mr. diping a cigar administration...
Wake up people...

 

[cessna_street]

I'll second that notion....

 

[ShawnC]

Too bad the President rarely has direct control over the economy. At best the President can influence it.

 

[WrightAvia]

Two things that point out how stupid democrats are...

1. They keep thinking that Bill Clinton was the guy that brought them jobs.

2. They think if the "Assault Weapon" bill sunsets in 2004, that it will allow inner city kids to spray their neighborhoods with bullets and kill innocent people.

Their counter argument on #2 borderlines on the criminally insane. The 1984 AW bill only prohibits features on rifles, not the rifles themselves. But them democrats consistantly show up in public forum, presenting the case that the rifles will flow into the inner city drug dealer's and gang banger's hands if the law is allowed to sunset. I am begining to understand that the only people that listen to democrats are the do-gooder types and the stupid people that want to live in total government rule as subjects.

Also, ever notice how the chant "at least we had jobs when Clinton was in office!" is never supplemented with a fact as to why?

 

[Loafman]

Also, ever notice how the chant "at least we had jobs when Clinton was in office!" is never supplemented with a fact as to why?

Because they're stupid enough to think it's the government's role to create employment when it's actually OUR job to elect a government that won't regulate industry out of business. What happens when the tree huggers find out spotted owls eat snail darters? Ever take a bald eagle into the windscreen at 250 knots? Not pretty. But if liberals found out, they'd want to outlaw airplanes.

 

[Typhoon1244]

A moron.

A womanizing, ambitious redneck.

A rich-boy empty suit artificial Texan.

A senile former cowboy actor.

An honest pacifist.

Another empty suit.

A crook.

These are, in reverse order, the Presidents who've served in my lifetime. Not pretty, is it? (Note: an honest pacifist doesn't necessarily make a bad President...he just gets eaten alive because nobody else in politics is honest.)

 

[2000flyer]

This from a recent Bill Clinton Speech to Rainbow/PUSH. Talk about a LIBERAL! More like, well, you know...

BTW, Hillary's book has yet to reach the top 25 on Amazon.com's best selling list. You don't hear that from the liberal media!!

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'They Ought to Audit Me'

Clinton bragged that he loved paying taxes.

"I must be the only person in America that every time - I pay the maximum tax rates - every time I sign that tax form, I smile. I thank God I live in a country that gave me a chance to make the money I do," Clinton said.

In addition to his professed fondness for paying taxes, Clinton said he wanted to be audited annually. "I think they ought to audit me and everyone in my income group every year, because if I make a mistake, I actually think they can make some real money out of me, and I want to pay what I owe," he declared.

"Most people I grew up with in Arkansas never made that much money in a year," Clinton said, again referring to the extra $80,000 he estimates he'll receive under the Bush tax-cut plan. "They worked just as hard as I did and paid their taxes and served their country in the military, raised their children and did everything they could to be right," he lamented.

Clinton reaffirmed his support for affirmative action and said the Bush administration's policies "may extend forever the need for affirmative action."

Clinton's analysis of the 2002 midterm election was blunt.

"We lost the last Congressional elections - my party did - because their people wanted to vote more than our people," he said.

He then urged the crowd to flip the Rainbow/PUSH name, to help make a political difference in 2004. "You are America's rainbow. Push, push," he said.


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Read the entire article here.

2000Flyer

 

[Snakum]

They're all corrupt, they're all inept, and they should all be run out of town on a rail (especially Congress). There is no integrity.

The Republicans squandered a budget surplus (on paper) and then spent 70 Billion to sent our military on a wild goose chase for imaginary weapons and now there is no end in sight (Vietnam). About 120 grieving mothers will tell you it just wasn't worth it. All we did was create more trouble for ourselves.

The Democrats fiddled (and diddled) while Rome burned and were completely devoid of integrity (Whitewater, Lewinski, etc.). They also contributed to the increased out-sourcing of jobs (Clinton signed NAFTA and worked for GATT) which is their single greatest crime. Our kids will be the first generation that can expect a lower standard of living than their parents had.

I vote for armed revolution in the street to take back our government. I'm a tree-hugger at heart, but I believe the founding fathers meant for well-armed citizens to keep their government in check (second ammendment). I believe they could, even then, imagine a time when governement was as greedy and corrupt as the system they were fighting against. Very insightful.

To the streets then?

Minh Thong

 

[Typhoon1244]

Not long ago, on the military side of this forum, I read the funniest defense yet of George W.'s questionable military service.

Somebody reminded us that W. was flying the Convair F-102, an early Century-series jet that had a bad habit of catching fire. Hey, don't knock W. for his limited military experience...it takes a real man to strap on a dangerous piece of equipment like the F-102.

Well, I'll bet that just impresses the hell out of the guys who were in the Hanoi Hilton at the time...

As for Clinton...I think we all know why he never "got it" with the military. What he knew about how to handle U.S. defense would fit on the back of a business card.

George H.W. Bush handled defense pretty well...he just didn't know how to handle anything else!

And Ronald Reagan... He actually made a speech once--while he was president!--about the heroics of certain W.W. II veterans. The trouble is that the incident he was recalling wasn't real life. It was from a movie he'd acted in! And this man was the leader of the free world for eight years!

 

[prodigal]

" . . . but I believe the founding fathers meant for well-armed citizens to keep their government in check (second ammendment)."

For once we're in agreement about something.

 

[planejanes]

http://www.freestateproject.org/

considering this or moving to Belize....

The Free State Project is a plan in which 20,000 or more liberty-oriented people will move to a single state of the U.S., where they may work within the political system to reduce the size and scope of government. The success of the Free State Project would likely entail reductions in burdensome taxation and regulation, reforms in state and local law, an end to federal mandates, and a restoration of constitutional federalism, demonstrating the benefits of liberty to the rest of the nation and the world.

 

[Swass]

Read this

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19323


That about sums it up for you.