Another Mistaken Eastie Myth

[AutoBus]

From the Horses mouth (From the Aug 9th About US)

Q. East operating income was $320 mil, West lost $25 mil, why is
the West so far behind?​

A. The revenue environment is much stronger on the East Coast vs.
the West Coast. This is a result of massive capacity reductions from
Delta, US Airways, and the liquidation of Independence Air. For
more information on the breakdown per airline, you may want to
look at our 2nd quarter 10Q – on our web site – usairways.com, click
on About US (upper right hand corner), then on Investor Relations
and you can find it from there. West is also “charged” with a lot of
administrative costs from the merger. Either way, this isn’t an “East”
or “West” thing and shouldn’t be: we’re one airline.​

 

[sgmick]

Lol!!!!!

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Why wasn't any of East superior operations etc able to make you profitable in the 7 (seven) years before the merger.

I'm always amused that the east thinks their operation is so great, but until last year they hadn't posted a profit since 1999.

They were such a clusterfukk that they couldn't post a profit and had to go into BK not once, but twice, nearly closed the doors only to be rescued by the merger and now they think its because of their stellar operation that the company is profitable.

Hubris The USAir mindset in a nutshell

 

[Flys4Fun]

If you monitor the US Aviation boards (and God help you if you do) the East employees are so convinced that what they had was a superior product and that AWA dragged their image down to the lower bowels of hell. Ask any of the smartass East employees and they'll tell you they were poised and ready to pull a Delta and come out of their crap situation without anyone's help.


It probably doesn't help that I'm sure 80-90% of the people on US Aviation are retirees that are full of fecal matter yet think they can talk like an active. Well, that and frequent fliers who know the operation better than the employees.

 

[VeeOne]

Just curious here, but does anyone realize that it is management that ruined a once healthy airline? It seems as though everyone is target focused on the blaming of the pilots. EVERYONE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT A CARPET BAGGING MANAGEMENT.

The general attitude that "they picked the wrong outfit" is going to be the ultimate destruction of our industry. Truth is, if the two sides cannot work any better than they are (together) the whole mess should self destruct and be flushed down the pipes. Especially if it leaves room in the industry for an airline to emerge that will up the ante' and yield a higher standard of living/pay for air line pilots in general.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Sad part is,Chug a lug Doug Parker in his Aug 7th crew news session in PHX sounds like he has NO IDEA how to bridge the gap between the Easties and the AWA pilots.He usually sounds pretty upbeat and positive when you hear him talk at these things but not this time . The only option that he has available to him is through the transition agreement that was signed by USAir's MEC,AWA's MEC and Parker which allows for mediation to move the process forward. This is what he requested at the last round of negotiations ,the AWA MEC has agreed to if neccesary and the USAir MEC refuses to address because they feel it would allow for further implementation of the Nicolau Award . So here we all sit, having a 3 way staring contest, waiting to see who blinks first. My guess. Watch the USAir ALPA guys do the same thing to the airline what Charlie Bryan and the IAM did to Eastern Airlines in the early 90's.Not budge one inch and wind up putting the whole thing out of business. Here's hoping I'm wrong.


PHXFLYR

 

[John Pennekamp]

Where'd I leave that stapler...?

 

[PHXFLYR]

Your point?

Or do we not have one again??

PHXFLYR

 

[AutoBus]

Your point?

Or do we not have one again??

PHXFLYR

The whole idea of mediating an arbitration sounds backwards to me.