An Honest Question for AirTran Pilots

[MILF Hunter]

Anyone can see that there are many views of what's "fair and equitable" on this forum. I'm curious what the views would be if the situation were reversed.

To AAI guys:
If AAI were to acquire SWA somehow (it could happen), what would be the fair way to integrate our pilots into your group?

Thanks in advance for entertaining a hypothetical!

 

[Bob Dylan]

Staple would thrill most trannie pilots I've heard.

 

[GuppyWN]

I'm sure the answer will be relative seniority. Seems to be the majority vibe.

Gup

 

[Kharma Police]

Staple would thrill most trannie pilots I've heard.

Are you an idiot savant, you keep saying same thing over and over without comprehending the question. The post was if AirTran was the acquiring carrier, what would the AirTran pilots advocate? The answer to this ridiculous question would be the same as the current situation. Both unions try and work it out, if they can't reach a mutually acceptable decision, it goes to arbitration.

 

[GuppyWN]

That was a great non-answer!

Gup

 

[Bob Dylan]

I was jumpseating on AirTran this week and both pilots said that they were genuinely concerned that the deal would either fall through or that Southwest would not combine the pilot groups. Both knew they were hitting the lottery and would accept whatever SWA offered (even a staple), so I think it is mainly FI blowhards that are just being greedy.

 

[StopNTSing]

Anyone can see that there are many views of what's "fair and equitable" on this forum. I'm curious what the views would be if the situation were reversed.

To AAI guys:
If AAI were to acquire SWA somehow (it could happen), what would be the fair way to integrate our pilots into your group?

Thanks in advance for entertaining a hypothetical!

Actually, the most analogous hypothetical would be an AirTran acquisition of Virgin America. Though others have already offered-up this scenario, no AirTran pilots seem willing to discuss it.

 

[humveedriver]

Airtran tried to acquire a smaller airline a couple of years ago. It didn't work out. I think 1 to 4 was in the works for pilot integration. We shared the same training facility. I don't remember anyone talking seriously about stapling the Midwest pilots if we had been succesful with that purchase. So yeah... a couple of years ago we were in the same boat. I'm sure there are a million posts on here about the subject.

 

[johnsonrod]

I was jumpseating on AirTran this week and both pilots said that they were genuinely concerned that the deal would either fall through or that Southwest would not combine the pilot groups. Both knew they were hitting the lottery and would accept whatever SWA offered (even a staple), so I think it is mainly FI blowhards that are just being greedy.

Whatever! They told you they would take a staple job? While you were on their jumpseat? BS. And an arbitrator will decide this, after reviewing the facts. You SWA guys seem very scared of the outcome. It's obvious from your posts.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Whatever! They told you they would take a staple job? While you were on their jumpseat? BS. And an arbitrator will decide this, after reviewing the facts. You SWA guys seem very scared of the outcome. It's obvious from your posts.

yes they did. Even the captain said he would do whatever it takes to get over to Southwest Airlines, including a staple. They mentioned that AirTran was not a good or stable company and they didn't want to work under the new contract because it is so crappy. Both seemed like great guys and they said they never heard of flightinfo. I told them about some of the posts on here from the trannies, and they just rolled their eyes.

 

[humveedriver]

Sounds like the crew was being polite and professional. See what you have to look forward to. What are they supposed to do? Get above 10000ft and start high fiving in the cockpit, saying " Hey man what's your doh at swa... Oh man your sooo scewed... Hey check out the boat I'm thinking about buying after my fat raise you guys are giving me!!"

 

[johnsonrod]

yes they did. Even the captain said he would do whatever it takes to get over to Southwest Airlines, including a staple. They mentioned that AirTran was not a good or stable company and they didn't want to work under the new contract because it is so crappy. Both seemed like great guys and they said they never heard of flightinfo. I told them about some of the posts on here from the trannies, and they just rolled their eyes.

Yeah, they wanted to be stapled..... Why not go for arbitration and possibly get a lot better. That is what WILL happen. Get used to it. And, most SWA pilots on this board seem to forget or just might not know what Airtran brings to your combination. The arbitrator won't make that mistake.

 

[Crash Pad]

I know. Those morons that want to "go rogue." They do a disservice to the high-quality, mature, intellectual conversations that occur on this site. I Hate those guys.

 

[ATLplt]

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[Quimby]

Yeah, they wanted to be stapled..... Why not go for arbitration and possibly get a lot better. That is what WILL happen. Get used to it. And, most SWA pilots on this board seem to forget or just might not know what Airtran brings to your combination. The arbitrator won't make that mistake.

It General Lee Jr.!

 

[Lear70]

To the poster who reported Ty's reply, I'd pull it down but I'm not moderating AAI/SWA threads anymore. We'll have to wait for CLR or OWW to get online and take care of it.

 

[johnsonrod]

It General Lee Jr.!

Thanks??? I do hope to fly for Delta someday, that's for sure.

 

[Kharma Police]

To the poster who reported Ty's reply, I'd pull it down but I'm not moderating AAI/SWA threads anymore. We'll have to wait for CLR or OWW to get online and take care of it.

You aren't moderating the AirTran SWA threads anymore?!?! I thought we had a deal! This wasn't how it was supposed to be! Who will censor the always insightful, convincing and logical Southwest arguments now? Without you protecting us, we AirTran pilots are doomed!!!!!

 

[Bob Dylan]

You aren't moderating the AirTran SWA threads anymore?!?! I thought we had a deal! This wasn't how it was supposed to be! Who will censor the always insightful, convincing and logical Southwest arguments now? Without you protecting us, we AirTran pilots are doomed!!!!!

Too bad for you. About time though. Glad someone put a stop to it finally.

 

[johnsonrod]

Too bad for you. About time though. Glad someone put a stop to it finally.

Bobby,

How is it working for Centurion Air Cargo? Do you really fly rubber dog poop to Montevideo? Sounds fun.