AMR - Reserve system

[Tweaker]

How does it work?

Can I choose to continue to mostly hang around my house in my boxer shorts, playing grab ass with the spousal unit and rarely working ever on short call?

I'm told the system has everyone working more. This displeases me.

You bid for a PT each night?

There is no long call lines / short call lines?

How much do you work each month?

 

[Wingman10]

reasonably available by surface transportation-

that is the key as to whether or not you have a quality of life on reserve.
depending on where you are based and how far you live from those airports means a great deal.
95% of the time you are assigned a trip the day prior. On occasion
you are tasked with making it to the airport on short notice, even then, as long as you can make it reasonable you should be fine.

We are in a bit of a transition from old to new contract and they seem to follow both depending on their need. Overall if you live within distance and time it can get somewhat predictable.

73hour minimum with straight pay if you go over. They do seem to offer
Premium pay a bit more often but not sure how that works.

If you are thinking of returning, welcome back.

I feel that we have finally turned the corner and the ship is headed away from a direct headwind.

Time will tell.

 

[cbrown1]

reasonably available by surface transportation-

that is the key as to whether or not you have a quality of life on reserve.
depending on where you are based and how far you live from those airports means a great deal.
95% of the time you are assigned a trip the day prior. On occasion
you are tasked with making it to the airport on short notice, even then, as long as you can make it reasonable you should be fine.

We are in a bit of a transition from old to new contract and they seem to follow both depending on their need. Overall if you live within distance and time it can get somewhat predictable.

73hour minimum with straight pay if you go over. They do seem to offer
Premium pay a bit more often but not sure how that works.

If you are thinking of returning, welcome back.

I feel that we have finally turned the corner and the ship is headed away from a direct headwind.

Time will tell.

What it's considered reasonable? Up to three hours, four hours? Who decides?

 

[elguapo9]

Long call under their system is like Bigfoot. It exists but very rarely seen. From my understanding, you get your RAP (reserve availability period, we call it a PT) the night before your reserve stretch. You don't bid for it, it's assigned. 12 hours on, 12 off. If you go fly a trip you get a new RAP.

This is all from a family member at AMR that hasn't flown reserve in a gazillion years, so it may be wrong. About like everything else on FI.

 

[LearLove]

73hour minimum with straight pay if you go over.

Is there an pay above that outside of flying over 73 hours block? Currently at US on reserve we get dead heads paid over top reserve gar.

For example: A short call reserve had a gar of 76 hours. He dead heads from PHL to CLT to pick up and airplane and fly it back to PHL. The dead head time is paid over top his 76 hours as "pay no credit" so now he is at 77.5 ish hours even if that is all he does for the month.

 

[elguapo9]

He dead heads from PHL to CLT to pick up and airplane and fly it back to PHL. The dead head time is paid over top his 76 hours as "pay no credit" so now he is at 77.5 ish hours even if that is all he does for the month.

Don't forget that it's only 50% for the DH, so his pay is at 76.75 after the trip to PHL. But this remains about the only way for short reserves to break guarantee. I don't think this exists at AMR. Also, since long/short is handed out by scheduling the night before a reserve stretch, they can't do the 'Quick R' trick that some of the R's do to break guarantee.

 

[Tweaker]

What it's considered reasonable? Up to three hours, four hours? Who decides?

The word from the mouth of the AMR Negotiator (IIRC) was that through years of testing, it means 2:30 or 3:00. I can't remember which he said. Sorry.

 

[Tweaker]

RAP
You don't bid for it, it's assigned.

That is total and complete bull********************!

12 hours on, 12 off.

Ok, that I like.

No one has answered how many hours these poor saps work each month.

Any feedback from current AMRers?

 

[C-150ETOPS]

What it's considered reasonable? Up to three hours, four hours? Who decides?

Who decides? As much as the company would like to get a hard time, they never have. The biggest problem by far with the time issue is guys pushing the time issue to the max.

What happens is if Mr Four-Hour is low man for short calls he can't cover, Mr Two-Hour, Mr Three-Hour will start getting pi##ed that they have to cover the guy. You might guess how pi##ed they might be after a couple of short calls that they would have been able to pass, especially at 4 am.

I've never been pulled off a trip for a quicker appearing reserve guy in 5 years and that's with a 3 hour show time for me.

I know of guys pulling MIA reserve in Vero Beach, but have the bag packed for a quick scramble. They can make it ok with a quick home departure. I know of others getting cute pulling it from MCO. They will f@%k their buddies at some point. That what it is all about.

 

[rjacobs]

I asked the question about reserve at AA a few years ago and the answers I got were a complete cluster ********************. The guys I talked to said there was like a 20 page booklet out from the union on how to navigate reserve. Different call out times every day depending on the needs of the company and you didnt really know from day to day what you would get. They said the only good thing was "reasonably available" which they said was around 3 hours, but there was no definition.

They asked me about ours at XJET and I said you have a call out time(3am, 7am, 10am, etc...) and that was what you always attempted to revert to all month after an assignment unless you needed domicile rest. 15 hour phone availability. 2 hour or 12 hour call out. Both the guys said "that is so simple, why dont we have something like that".