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AMR and DAL qtrly earnings comes out tomorrow....

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parking jets ?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...s-capacity-20110420,0,6222452.story?track=rss

American Airlines plans to park about 10 percent of its MD-80 fleet this year and trim domestic capacity to stem losses from sky-high fuel prices.

Texas-based American announced Wednesday that it would ground at least 25 MD-80s, aging workhorses that carry out much of its domestic service and gradually replace them with newer and more fuel-efficient Boeing 737 jets.

American joins Delta and United airlines in cutting money-losing flights in the U.S., while boosting flights on higher-margin overseas routes, as jet fuel prices hit the stratosphere.

Their retreat in the domestic market creates a void that lower-cost carriers such as Southwest, JetBlue Airways and Virgin America will likely fill, said airline analyst Roger King of CreditSights Inc.

Despite raising fares more than a half-dozen times since the year began, carriers such as American are struggling to offset soaring fuel bills.

Airlines paid $140 per barrel for jet fuel, as of April 15, up 45 percent from year-earlier prices, according to the International Air Transport Association, an airline trade group.

"There is no denying that should fuel prices remain where they are, we are headed for yet another challenging year," American Chief Executive Gerard Arpey told employees in a letter Wednesday.

American started the year off with a quarterly net loss of $436 million, or $1.31 per share, that exceeded analysts' expectations of a $1.32 per share loss. American's performance was an improvement from its year-earlier loss of $505 million, or $1.52 per share.

The nation's third-largest carrier continues to look to close ventures with OneWorld alliance partners across the Atlantic and Pacific to boost revenue. American said it intended to take delivery of two additional Boeing 777-300ERs, bringing to five the total new wide-body jets it will add to its fleet in 2012 and 2013 as it increases overseas service.

The latest network tweaks will reduce American's U.S. service by 0.5 percent for the year, while boosting international capacity by 8.1 percent for the year.

Delta last month said it would cut overall capacity by 3 percent, while United said it intended to keep system-wide capacity flat while making large domestic cuts.

Chicago-based United told employees last month that while it would increase overseas capacity by 2.5 percent to 3.5 percent for the year, it would reduce domestic service by 1.5 percent to 2.5 percent for the year with the deepest cuts in the fourth quarter. During that period, United intends to reduce domestic flying by 5 percent and is studying parking some fuel-inefficient jets.
 
AA is parking 25 MD80s, and adding 5 777-300ERs. How much do you think a new 777-300ER costs? A lot.


OYS
 
Not only that, didn't they also recently announce to invest in the resurrection of Mexicana Airlines? Wonder how big that tap is ...


Every employee group has a contract up for negotiation. Hmmmmmm. And they also invest in Mexicana? Sounds Estupido to me...eh cabron?


OYS
 
this will be interesting to watch. I personally (and what do I know? - nothing) believe that AA has a lot of storms going on right now
 
this will be interesting to watch. I personally (and what do I know? - nothing) believe that AA has a lot of storms going on right now


And, since Delta's pension was cut, Congress enacted some laws NOT allowing airlines to just cut those like they did. AMR had the chance to try to cut those, and they missed it. So, going BK just won't cut all of the "fat." I think they need to cut management bonuses and pay, personally.


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AMR's Total Debt, which it defines as the aggregate of its long-term debt, capital lease obligations, the principal amount of airport facility tax-exempt bonds, and the present value of aircraft operating lease obligations, was $17.4 billion at the end of the first quarter of 2011, compared to $15.9 billion a year earlier.

AMR's Net Debt, which it defines as Total Debt less unrestricted cash and short-term investments, was $11.6 billion at the end of the first quarter, compared to $11.4 billion in the first quarter of 2010.
 
Not "Congress,"
DEMOCRATS. Much to the dismay of Republicans. And the demise of all business!!!!! (joke)

And, since Delta's pension was cut, Congress enacted some laws NOT allowing airlines to just cut those like they did. AMR had the chance to try to cut those, and they missed it. So, going BK just won't cut all of the "fat." I think they need to cut management bonuses and pay, personally.


OYS
 
Parking 25 MD80s but starting up with 2-3 737s/month next month. AA will easily recoup the lost MD80s with 737s. Shouldn't make much of an impact on recalls.
 
Have a hunch that AMR will report a bigger loss than DAL as they are trying to convince the unions that BK is imminent for negotiations. DAL has a year to go before it's time to "show the losses" so to speak.

Since the bankruptcy laws have changed, I seriously doubt AMR will file for it.
 
Actually their total debt went UP by 1.5 Billion in one quarter. Their Net Debt went up by 200 million. And their increase in Cash is probably that 1 Billion in notes they just floated at a very high rate (7.5%).

Remember, AMR holdings makes a profit based on mail and cargo. This is kept seperate from AMR as an airline, who looses money. In the end, they alway make something, but don't show it exactly.
 
I don't really see any downfall in the airline stocks after they report earnings. I believe the current prices have already reflected the loss. Once oil comes back down to normal, there should be a nice pop.
 
Since the bankruptcy laws have changed, I seriously doubt AMR will file for it.

I didn't say they WOULD file for BK, just as they are in negotiations with many groups so this is NO time to show a profit, even if they were making $1Billion a week in profit, they would find a way to bleed at this moment.

Delta though, not being in current negotiations, wants to please investors and the BOD more than worrying about negotiations that are a year away.

Just one consideration. With fuel this high, paying the bill on April 1, vs March 31st could be the difference in the quarter's performance.
 
Remember, AMR holdings makes a profit based on mail and cargo. This is kept seperate from AMR as an airline, who looses money. In the end, they alway make something, but don't show it exactly.

Really? That would be a neat trick. Since this is AMR Corp. Parent company to everything AMR.
 
I didn't say they WOULD file for BK, just as they are in negotiations with many groups so this is NO time to show a profit, even if they were making $1Billion a week in profit, they would find a way to bleed at this moment.

Delta though, not being in current negotiations, wants to please investors and the BOD more than worrying about negotiations that are a year away.

Just one consideration. With fuel this high, paying the bill on April 1, vs March 31st could be the difference in the quarter's performance.

Our CEO stated we would have a small profit for the year overall. High oil now doesn't mean it will be that way a year from now, when negotiations actually start. So, a small profit, after a big profit last year, with a chance for more favorable negotiating conditions, means big gains for DL pilots. And what does that also mean for hiring? That means SWA pilots try to apply to Delta in droves.


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So, a small profit, after a big profit last year, with a chance for more favorable negotiating conditions, means big gains for DL pilots. And what does that also mean for hiring? That means SWA pilots try to apply to Delta in droves.


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Still have the Welcome Aboard letter from Plato. You can guess which I chose.

Gup
 

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