Amf

[DirtyBeech]

KSU, Beech, do I have to separate you two?? I swear, you're just like two kids. ;

When compared age-wise to some pilots we are just a couple of kids.

 

[masedogg19]

So just to clarify....if you do get the CVG base in the Metro, what are schedules really like? Are you really never there?

 

[DirtyBeech]

Just the basics. Sitting on call at the crew rest facility for 15 hours a day until a trip is sold. Fly to destination, off load, and then sit ready at that airport for 15 hours a day until a return trip can be sold to get the aircraft back to CVG or the next paying destination. AMF is a great company, but they're doing everything they can to hang on to that base and anyone considering a position there should go in with their eyes wide open. OTOH, if you really need to be on the lamb or just away from your significant other for prolonged periods then it's just what you are looking for. KSU could speak more intelligently on the subject than I.

 

[ksu_aviator]

So just to clarify....if you do get the CVG base in the Metro, what are schedules really like? Are you really never there?

Schedule is 3 weeks on 1 week off. 12 hour on call at the airport, 12 hours off. If you do fly, they sell you one way and wait for another flight to be sold back (even if it goes into your week off if I'm not mistaken) which they usually get you back with in a day or two.

The pay is a little better because you get more OT (flying beyond 12 or on days off) and you get reimbursed for things the rest of us schlubs don't get (but are standard at other companies).

 

[masedogg19]

Thanks guys....I live a half hour away from CVG....would I have to sit at the airport or can I hang at home?....what's the call out period?....one other thing....with my time (which is almost 2400 TT), would I have a chance of being hired directly into a base like CVG?

 

[ksu_aviator]

Thanks guys....I live a half hour away from CVG....would I have to sit at the airport or can I hang at home?....what's the call out period?....one other thing....with my time (which is almost 2400 TT), would I have a chance of being hired directly into a base like CVG?

You have to sit at the airport for all 12 hours (unless you are sent to Bedford for two weeks I forgot to include that in my last reply).

You'd have a better than fair chance if you have any turbine time.

 

[masedogg19]

920 turbine......is BB still based at CVG?

 

[frmrBUFFdrvr]

920 turbine......is BB still based at CVG?

BB just got dual qualed in the Bro for reserve. I think he finishes his IOE this week.

I'm assuming it is BrBe?

 

[masedogg19]

BB just got dual qualed in the Bro for reserve. I think he finishes his IOE this week.

I'm assuming it is BrBe?

That's the guy....I was in flight school and taught with him

 

[airhermit]

Why did AMF lose all that DHL work when they consolidated to the ILN hub?

How many Metros are in CVG?

How many nights might you on average spend at home (during your 3 weeks on) if you are CVG Metro?

Any talk on improving that 3 on/1 off crap? That takes a toll...

 

[frmrBUFFdrvr]

Why did AMF lose all that DHL work when they consolidated to the ILN hub?

How many Metros are in CVG?

How many nights might you on average spend at home (during your 3 weeks on) if you are CVG Metro?

Any talk on improving that 3 on/1 off crap? That takes a toll...

I can't speak to the number of metros or time home since I'm not based in CVG.

As for the DHL runs, when DHL acquired ABX they cut their feeder fleet just about in half. While most of the runs in CVG went away, we actually picked up runs in other locations. So while we have fewer DHL runs than we did before, we actually have a higher percentage of their work.

Regarding the 3on/2 off "crap", that is a recent IMPROVEMENT to bring those pilot's schedules in line with our system TDYs who are usually away from home 3 weeks then home for one. Show me another place you can fly PIC with less than 2500 hours with a schedule like that.

 

[oops!]

I wouldn't worry so much about the 3/1 schedule but the 12 hours on duty then you get more money is crap

 

[SDCFI]

DHL virtually eliminated all its midwest feed when they consolidated up in ILN. I don't know about the other companies, but all the AMF runs from CVG mirrored a DC-9 from ILN, my guess is to avoid trucking the sort between the two operations. The move to ILN eliminated this need. The flying in CVG is great. You see a lot of the country and never get bored with the flying. The quality of life however leaves a lot of room for improvement. You WILL sit at the CVG base for 12 hours on standby if you don't fly. Even if you live 10mins away. This is b.s. The number of trips that are that time critical is very small in my experience. You will also sit at the FBO where you end up for 12 hours while praying for a trip home. This is the most egregious violation in my opinion. Even at the nicer FBO's this gets old in a hurry. Try doing it at some Mom and Pop place with no TV and no crew lounge. If you're lucky they'll let you leave for food, if there's any nearby. If you ask me I don't think it's worth it for that one week off. The only reason they agreed to do the 3on 1off is because it was costing too much money to pay the pilots extra for being gone weekends. At the time CVG pilots got a full 8 units each for sat and sun if they were on the road. Not anymore. But at least I hear they are honoring the week off. They'll either repo you home or if they have to airline you back. Trust me, you'll need all 7 days to get you head straight. The pilots and mechanics in CVG are awesome, it's everyone else you have to worry about.

 

[Joblio]

Thanks, SDCFI for answering that one. I was trying to get myself geared up to answer it myself. You're right, it is BS that pilots have to sit at CVG if they only live 10 mins away.

I'm glad to see you're still lurking around here too. See you next Sunday?

 

[TransMach]

Amf Cvg

Boy, the more things change the more they seem to stay the same.

TransMach

 

[SDCFI]

Thanks, SDCFI for answering that one. I was trying to get myself geared up to answer it myself. You're right, it is BS that pilots have to sit at CVG if they only live 10 mins away.

I'm glad to see you're still lurking around here too. See you next Sunday?

Yeah, it's slow now so I've been getting short days and long overnights. Can't argue with that. Lots of time to surf the net. Unfortunately they've got me out the 9th to the 12th, sat - tues. So far I've been working thurs - sun or similar. No weekends off for me yet. When's your last day at AMF again? I keep hoping I'll overnight in Cincy sometime so I can hang but I rarely get off the east coast. Will this be your last trip to DFW?

 

[highalti2d]

I'll give it a shot...

I can't speak to the number of metros or time home since I'm not based in CVG.

As for the DHL runs, when DHL acquired ABX they cut their feeder fleet just about in half. While most of the runs in CVG went away, we actually picked up runs in other locations. So while we have fewer DHL runs than we did before, we actually have a higher percentage of their work.

Regarding the 3on/2 off "crap", that is a recent IMPROVEMENT to bring those pilot's schedules in line with our system TDYs who are usually away from home 3 weeks then home for one. Show me another place you can fly PIC with less than 2500 hours with a schedule like that.

Try Alaska. 2 weeks on weeks off and better pay. Though you'll be flying a single-engine piston. But still... making more money (at the daily rate by $40/day (ie: they pay $200/day)) in a piston single than a metro!!

Then again, who wants to fly a single engine piston?