Amf

[Boris Badenov]

Or, perhaps they're finding jobs in shiny jets, making bank. Just a thought.

Sweet! Hold your fire, guy. Just a question.

 

[time builder]

Didn't mean to sound confrontational, more humble than sarcastic because I don't know a ton about the CVG base. But really, folks can get some pretty sweet jobs going out of AMF.

 

[AZFr8tPilot]

Bad schedules? Bad management? Why the exodus?

It seems to be the case for many AMF bases at the moment.....better opportunities abound.

 

[Joblio]

Actually, time builder isn't wrong at all. CVG pilots are indeed finding jobs in shiny new jets.

And yes, Boris, bad schedules is the reason that most TDY pilots don't want to return, and management (operations) making assumptions that a pilot can come in 3 hours early, or 6 hours late and still work 16 hours straight.

How's training going, Tony?

 

[Boris Badenov]

OK, I'm a little dense, so bear with me. As a 135 op, isn't 14 hours your max duty? And you say TDY pilots. Is CVG not a permanent base, but just a TDY through which the unlucky are cycled? If so tell your bosses you know a guy from the internet who would love to fly a metro for them in covington. Great stick, nice guy, good with children...

 

[DirtyBeech]

You have to be able to look back 24 hours from the end of a flight segment and find 9 hours of consecutive rest. That can be reduced to 8, but you have to get 10 hours of rest in the next 24 hours. Sooo, 15 hours is the norm and 16 is not unusual. And if you dsire to fly Metro's from CVG (which you'll rarely see) your name is on a disturbingly short and sad list.

 

[ksu_aviator]

You have to be able to look back 24 hours from the end of a flight segment and find 9 hours of consecutive rest. That can be reduced to 8, but you have to get 10 hours of rest in the next 24 hours. Sooo, 15 hours is the norm and 16 is not unusual. And if you dsire to fly Metro's from CVG (which you'll rarely see) your name is on a disturbingly short and sad list.

That list may be short, but not as short as the number of games Texas won against the Cats this year

How's da flex treating ya?

 

[DirtyBeech]

Get your shots in while you can. Just remember that when y'all are in the middle of another coaching search in '08 we'll be making another title run.

Flex is still going well. My 6 month recurrent is coming up in a few weeks, and I'm off reserve now. I'm not flying right now though as a have a minor medical deal that's keeping me sidelined for the next week or so. I saw the new Metro checklists, and sat down and tried to remember FFOD stuff and some basic calls. Wasn't very pretty. Ofcourse, that's what my captain's say after all of my legs these days. We'll have to hook up again so you can drub me in golf. Tell the gang I said hello, and when you check in to the hotel with the greasy spoon think of me.

 

[frmrBUFFdrvr]

KSU, Beech, do I have to separate you two?? I swear, you're just like two kids. ;

 

[ksu_aviator]

KSU, Beech, do I have to separate you two?? I swear, you're just like two kids. ;

He started it!

 

[DirtyBeech]

KSU, Beech, do I have to separate you two?? I swear, you're just like two kids. ;

When compared age-wise to some pilots we are just a couple of kids.

 

[masedogg19]

So just to clarify....if you do get the CVG base in the Metro, what are schedules really like? Are you really never there?

 

[DirtyBeech]

Just the basics. Sitting on call at the crew rest facility for 15 hours a day until a trip is sold. Fly to destination, off load, and then sit ready at that airport for 15 hours a day until a return trip can be sold to get the aircraft back to CVG or the next paying destination. AMF is a great company, but they're doing everything they can to hang on to that base and anyone considering a position there should go in with their eyes wide open. OTOH, if you really need to be on the lamb or just away from your significant other for prolonged periods then it's just what you are looking for. KSU could speak more intelligently on the subject than I.

 

[ksu_aviator]

So just to clarify....if you do get the CVG base in the Metro, what are schedules really like? Are you really never there?

Schedule is 3 weeks on 1 week off. 12 hour on call at the airport, 12 hours off. If you do fly, they sell you one way and wait for another flight to be sold back (even if it goes into your week off if I'm not mistaken) which they usually get you back with in a day or two.

The pay is a little better because you get more OT (flying beyond 12 or on days off) and you get reimbursed for things the rest of us schlubs don't get (but are standard at other companies).

 

[masedogg19]

Thanks guys....I live a half hour away from CVG....would I have to sit at the airport or can I hang at home?....what's the call out period?....one other thing....with my time (which is almost 2400 TT), would I have a chance of being hired directly into a base like CVG?

 

[ksu_aviator]

Thanks guys....I live a half hour away from CVG....would I have to sit at the airport or can I hang at home?....what's the call out period?....one other thing....with my time (which is almost 2400 TT), would I have a chance of being hired directly into a base like CVG?

You have to sit at the airport for all 12 hours (unless you are sent to Bedford for two weeks I forgot to include that in my last reply).

You'd have a better than fair chance if you have any turbine time.

 

[masedogg19]

920 turbine......is BB still based at CVG?

 

[frmrBUFFdrvr]

920 turbine......is BB still based at CVG?

BB just got dual qualed in the Bro for reserve. I think he finishes his IOE this week.

I'm assuming it is BrBe?

 

[masedogg19]

BB just got dual qualed in the Bro for reserve. I think he finishes his IOE this week.

I'm assuming it is BrBe?

That's the guy....I was in flight school and taught with him

 

[airhermit]

Why did AMF lose all that DHL work when they consolidated to the ILN hub?

How many Metros are in CVG?

How many nights might you on average spend at home (during your 3 weeks on) if you are CVG Metro?

Any talk on improving that 3 on/1 off crap? That takes a toll...