AMF Management Pilot lands at Wrong Airport

[Beer30]

yet another fine example of people jumping to conclusions with little or no facts...
(this thread)

AMF SLC Brothers

You boys need to suck some O2 and wake up. Call our Chief Pilot, Sean Kaveny and ask. He will tell you that Pilot Recuiter/Charter Pilot took a Lear and landed at the wrong airport. Simple as that. Came over the hill from Burbank, he landed at what he thought was WJF, only to find out that it was Palmdale AF. The facts are simple.

Our Director of Safety should be issuing a memo on how to identify a airport soon.

 

[Tryful]

i had a pretty lengthy discussion with my acp yesterday about it just asking whether it was true and i found out most of the details. but for those who actually work for us and want to find out, just like was said...ask your acp or call Kaveny.

 

[RefugePilot]

This is especially funny for me as during the oral portion of my checkride, I told Bob I would use PMD as an alternate for WJF for a flight plan. I had shot many approaches there all week in training, but never looked at it on the enroute charts. Since I was shooting approaches there I assumed it was a mixed use (civ/mil) base.

Bob was ranting and raving at me, telling me what would happend to me if I landed there. I thought my checkride was over, but apparently thats how he conducts a checkride. Thank god I did not have to fly with him.

As I remember PMD is up against a set of mountains and WJF is in the middle of the Valley. It just backs up what was discussed in our most recent meeting. Most of AMF accidents are from long term employees, while the low time folks are nervous about screwing up so are focused.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Actually, if Bob stopped ranting and raving then you'd know your checkride was over.

 

[LRplt]

Was BS one of the crew members?

 

[DirtyBeech]

No, he wasn't.

 

[time builder]

As I remember PMD is up against a set of mountains and WJF is in the middle of the Valley.

PMD is also closer to Lancaster, whereas Willie J Fox is out to the North in the middle of nowhere.
I could see it happening, just speculating, you know where Lancaster is, and PMD is the most recognizable airport in the vicinity. The enroute charts also cluster the words from the two airports. I recall dialing in the ATIS one time, got the two mixed up and heard PMD instead of WJF, whoops.
Not that its any excuse, especially at AMF where they are so unforgiving of mistakes.
"Someone give him a dope slap," as Bob would say.

 

[big_al]

are you all sure this was a mistake? looks like a B99 went in to PMD as well judging by flightinfo.

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KPMD

And gotta love those WWW super secret "janet" aircraft. I cant believe they let you track them!

 

[hawkerflyer]

I know a guy that took off in a Citation with a lot of pax in back and headed for Richmond, VA...they get off the plane and the pax are like, "Uh, we're supposed to be in Richmond, IN." D'oh!

Nice. Besides, accuracy is overrated.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Always be careful when someone tells you you are going to Las Vegas. There is more than one city named Las Vegas.

 

[pilots-wife]

Did the Captain's last name start with C?

 

[TigerDriver]

There is more than one city named Las Vegas

nothing better than a three day layover in LVS (the other las vegas, not the good one in nevada)