American pilots weren’t allowed to strike, so instead they did something clever

[Floyd R. Turbo]

They had to. It's in his contract.

 

[se1776]

With all due respect but do you know how the 121 world works? If everyone followed the rules to the letter of the law, there would be absolute chaos. Reminds me of an old interview question:
It's Christmas eve at an outstation (nighttime), tower's closed, planes full of connecting pax, maintenance gone for night, you notice the nav light burnt out. What do you do future captain?

I spent three years at a major airline.
IN MY PERSONAL OPINION;
As pilots, we have to protect one of the most important things we all worked hard for it, which is our FAA Certificates. With all respect, I believe that every pilot should follow the rules. That’s what every company agreed to operate under. At the end, It’s not the company's fault, It's the pilots fault, for not complying with the rules.
Just remember that you are in that cockpit because your certificates.
So If you get caught breaking the rules, the company will not back you up.
Is it worth it??
I can't believe that all of a sudden following the rules is a clever idea.
Who are creating the chaos now?? the company or the pilots??

 

[Whine Lover]

With all due respect but do you know how the 121 world works? If everyone followed the rules to the letter of the law, there would be absolute chaos. Reminds me of an old interview question:
It's Christmas eve at an outstation (nighttime), tower's closed, planes full of connecting pax, maintenance gone for night, you notice the nav light burnt out. What do you do future captain?

Q: What do you do future captain?

A: I write up the discrepancy, call the company, and tell them to find contract maintenance to fix the nav. light....Then I relax and lean back and read my book until it get's fixed or we time out and need to go to the hotel.

And, my answer would be the same if I was making $400,000/yr or was in the middle of a nasty situation like AMR is now.

Simple.

It's called being a professional. I do my job, you do yours.


Any company that doesn't want to hire me with that answer....is a company I don't want to work for.

It's the idiots that risk their tickets ( " departing with a known deficiency " in this case ) who think they are saving the day and being Hero's to the Company and their passengers....That allow company's to become totally mismanaged and unworkable.

WHY is there no maintenance at the station ( in this example) with a known departure not having been accomplished ?

That is just p-poor planning and a total lack of management....and management is NOT my job. Why do so many fools try to make it theirs?

MY license say's "Airline Transport Pilot" not..." Maintenance Scheduler / Overseer of Inept Planning / Janitor Who Cleans Up Other People Inexcusable Messes."


Rant OVER.



YKW

 

[Abernathy]

q: What do you do future captain?

A: I write up the discrepancy, call the company, and tell them to find contract maintenance to fix the nav. Light....then i relax and lean back and read my book until it get's fixed or we time out and need to go to the hotel.

And, my answer would be the same if i was making $400,000/yr or was in the middle of a nasty situation like amr is now.

Simple.

It's called being a professional. I do my job, you do yours.


Any company that doesn't want to hire me with that answer....is a company i don't want to work for.

It's the idiots that risk their tickets ( " departing with a known deficiency " in this case ) who think they are saving the day and being hero's to the company and their passengers....that allow company's to become totally mismanaged and unworkable.

Why is there no maintenance at the station ( in this example) with a known departure not having been accomplished ?

That is just p-poor planning and a total lack of management....and management is not my job. Why do so many fools try to make it theirs?

My license say's "airline transport pilot" not..." maintenance scheduler / overseer of inept planning / janitor who cleans up other people inexcusable messes."


rant over.



Ykw

+1...

 

[jonjuan]

With all due respect but do you know how the 121 world works? If everyone followed the rules to the letter of the law, there would be absolute chaos. Reminds me of an old interview question:
It's Christmas eve at an outstation (nighttime), tower's closed, planes full of connecting pax, maintenance gone for night, you notice the nav light burnt out. What do you do future captain?

I'm Jewish. What's Christmas?

 

[jonjuan]

Maybe not as labor friendly as we'd like it to be, but 100% more labor friendly than what would be in place under anti-union Mitt Romney.

And yet under a mitt Romney administration, the economy does better, more people are able to fly to Disneyland, your company does better, you upgrade quicker, you get a better contract, you make more $$$, you are able to buy Melvin the GI Joe with the kungfu grip, Momma is happy, she eats more, gets fat, you lose interest, knock up the babysitter, marry her, dump Momma and live happily ever after.
Ironic, eh?

 

[ASA_Aviator]

I'm Jewish. What's Christmas?

I'm atheist. Christmas in the United States is that secular holiday where loved ones share presents, have family parties, and celebrate together.

It was once a Christian holiday, but it has now been secularized, and is celebrated by many who are not Christians, myself included.

Welcome to the USA!

 

[Visceral]

Christmas is Santa's birthday. End of Rant

 

[laker4284]

I spent three years at a major airline.
IN MY PERSONAL OPINION;... With all respect, I believe that every pilot should follow the rules...

Part of the deal in being a successful Captain is knowing which rule to bend and/or how far to bend it. We'd finish few flights if we played the "perfect every day" game.

I'm not surprised your major airline career was three years! ;-)

 

[Linedriver]

Q: What do you do future captain?

A: I write up the discrepancy, call the company, and tell them to find contract maintenance to fix the nav. light....Then I relax and lean back and read my book until it get's fixed or we time out and need to go to the hotel.

And, my answer would be the same if I was making $400,000/yr or was in the middle of a nasty situation like AMR is now.

Simple.

It's called being a professional. I do my job, you do yours.


Any company that doesn't want to hire me with that answer....is a company I don't want to work for.

It's the idiots that risk their tickets ( " departing with a known deficiency " in this case ) who think they are saving the day and being Hero's to the Company and their passengers....That allow company's to become totally mismanaged and unworkable.

WHY is there no maintenance at the station ( in this example) with a known departure not having been accomplished ?

That is just p-poor planning and a total lack of management....and management is NOT my job. Why do so many fools try to make it theirs?

MY license say's "Airline Transport Pilot" not..." Maintenance Scheduler / Overseer of Inept Planning / Janitor Who Cleans Up Other People Inexcusable Messes."


Rant OVER.



YKW

What would your answer be if it was YOUR last leg home on Christmas Eve and your family was waiting on you for dinner?

 

[se1776]

Part of the deal in being a successful Captain is knowing which rule to bend and/or how far to bend it. We'd finish few flights if we played the "perfect every day" game.

I'm not surprised your major airline career was three years! ;-)

Unfortunately, my number came up and I got laid off.
But, I am amazed that in your world, a successful captain, is that individual that knows which rule to bend??

I hope that you never get caught, and if that happened, I hope your company backs you up.
Good luck man.

 

[Quimby]

Whine Lover gets it.

 

[XJAVRO]

And yet under a mitt Romney administration, the economy does better, more people are able to fly to Disneyland, your company does better, you upgrade quicker, you get a better contract, you make more $$$, you are able to buy Melvin the GI Joe with the kungfu grip, Momma is happy, she eats more, gets fat, you lose interest, knock up the babysitter, marry her, dump Momma and live happily ever after.
Ironic, eh?

Whatever you are smoking please share. Remember it's puff, puff, pass!

 

[Ops check good]

Q: What do you do future captain?

A: I write up the discrepancy, call the company, and tell them to find contract maintenance to fix the nav. light....Then I relax and lean back and read my book until it get's fixed or we time out and need to go to the hotel.

Why would you not just defer it? Then you would still depart on time and all is well.

 

[scoreboardII]

What would your answer be if it was YOUR last leg home on Christmas Eve and your family was waiting on you for dinner?

Oh then yes, lets violate rules and regs so we get home, thats OK on Christmae eve, but not Oct 10th.