American o furlough 400 pilots

[becket]

What hire date would that reach if they actually did furlough 400?

 

[BusDriver12]

Eagle or mainline?

 

[polarjet205]

New Atricle only said mainline... but it did mention Eagle in Bk... it really was not specific on pilots.. it continuied to say 4200 rampies, 4200 Mx, 1400 F.A's FWIW,, it all sucks,,,

 

[johnsonrod]

Tough situation - but maybe it will work out better for the pilots involved. Who wants to be on the bottom of a loser airline like American with almost no growth or pilot movement? Too stressful. Go to faster growing airlines like Virgin America, Spirit, JB and Emirates. I know VA is considered financially "dicey" by some, but I heard from a recent VA newhire that upgrade is 2-3 years on the Airbus. In the bottom 400 at American, it would probably take 17-20 years to upgrade. I would already be looking elsewhere.

Good luck to all those impacted!

 

[jonjuan]

1/2 the list retires in 10 years. How do you figure 17-20?

 

[ASADFW7]

I have a friend in maintenance in Dallas, his wife has one more surgery for cancer, he is trying to hang on till March. Tough spot

 

[BrickTop]

1/2 the list retires in 10 years. How do you figure 17-20?

Classic misconception. AA will NOT NOT NOT be replacing those retirements. They're going to chop that place into nothing but a brand name. I want to stand in a boxing ring with every Airline CEO. Bunch of slack jawed self-profiting pu$$ies.

 

[johnsonrod]

1/2 the list retires in 10 years. How do you figure 17-20?

OK, perhaps 17-20 is pushing it. I guess I was thinking about SWA where that upgrade time frame for pilots on the bottom of their list is more likely... Still, a very long upgrade depending on what happens to the AA fleet (although a merger could futher screw up those plans). Being in the bottom 400 at AA would be very uncomfortable and stressful anyway - most of those pilots would do better elsewhere where the growth and upgrade time is faster.

 

[MCDU]

Would have been a lot more if age 65 didn't kick in this year. Hopefully no ones gets furloughed. Just remember delta had pilots on furlough and where in bk and it worked out.

M

 

[Mickey D]

Good luck to all of the guys and gals involved in this. I hope that there is somehow a silver lining to this dark cloud for you all.

 

[Citjok]

I hope voluntary leaves are offered before the furloughs.

 

[jonjuan]

I hope voluntary leaves are offered before the furloughs.

Or early retirement packages with a life time supply (3 years) of Depends.

 

[satpak77]

OK, perhaps 17-20 is pushing it. I guess I was thinking about SWA where that upgrade time frame for pilots on the bottom of their list is more likely... Still, a very long upgrade depending on what happens to the AA fleet (although a merger could futher screw up those plans). Being in the bottom 400 at AA would be very uncomfortable and stressful anyway - most of those pilots would do better elsewhere where the growth and upgrade time is faster.

ok kit darby

 

[C601]

Layoff's were to be expected, before the merger .....

They are doing the same thing UA did in 2006.

Delta also did the same thing, before they merged with Northwest.

Right now in AMR it's sink or swim ....

 

[johnsonrod]

ok kit darby

You got me! I'm not Kit Darby, I'm Terrance Trent Darby (1980s singer).

 

[XTW]

What hire date would that reach if they actually did furlough 400?

AE flowthrough mixed in with the Feb 2001 hire "natives".

 

[Iflyamouse]

Q: Will there be a reduction in the pilot workforce as a result of this proposal? If so, how many pilots will lose their jobs?
While we expect about 400 pilot reductions, we won’t have certainty on this issue until an agreement is reached. It’s important to remember that a number of factors play into the company’s staffing needs, including mandatory age 65 retirements, the new flight- and duty-time regulations that will become effective in 2014, and the lead time required to train pilots. We regularly evaluate our staffing requirements and will continue to do so, both in and out of the restructuring process.

 

[Sy-bill]

Q: Will there be a reduction in the pilot workforce as a result of this proposal? If so, how many pilots will lose their jobs?
While we expect about 400 pilot reductions, we won’t have certainty on this issue until an agreement is reached. It’s important to remember that a number of factors play into the company’s staffing needs, including mandatory age 65 retirements, the new flight- and duty-time regulations that will become effective in 2014, and the lead time required to train pilots. We regularly evaluate our staffing requirements and will continue to do so, both in and out of the restructuring process.

And the new staffing requirements with the adoption of the Preferential Bidding System that they will certainly be implementing while increasing the monthly rigs from 68 to 78 hours.

Good luck guys. This really sucks.