American Eagle Pay

[Flybet3]

Hey Guys and gals, can anyone give me an example of what a first year FO can make at Eagle. I know how much they get paid, I saw airlinepilotcentral.com, but what I mean is what do you guys usually bring home after taxes? Including perdiem and all. I've got a friend looking into going to Eagle, he had an offer with pinnacle, but I know how much those guys make. So after I told him, he wasnt very ecxited, plus he would have to commute. The guy's currently a CFI lives in DFW, has a young wife and a little boy. The wife makes OK money. Anyway, if anyone can give me some info, if you dont want to do it in public that's ok, you can PM the numbers. Once again, typical first year pay after taxes and all, plus perdiem? Oh yeah, and how much can he expect to pay for family insurance. Oh yeah and what are the chances that he could get DFW based out of training? Thanks.
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[Flybet3]

Anyone? No American Eaglers around here?

 

[CitationLover]

need more information like what state are they going to claim as their "home" residence (TX i would assume) since that would affect take home pay with no state income tax, etc.

i would plan on about $12-1300/month take home pay. my first year gross pay was around $25.5k (yes i know, it sucks). the first few checks you get will be the largest checks you get as training pay is nice at eagle (16hrs per diem, paid double occupancy hotel room, training guarantee - 64 hrs/month, no training contract).

they have had a rash of people leaving training and before they are off probation. i would expect a training contract soon at eagle.

 

[Flybet3]

need more information like what state are they going to claim as their "home" residence (TX i would assume) since that would affect take home pay with no state income tax, etc.

i would plan on about $12-1300/month take home pay. my first year gross pay was around $25.5k (yes i know, it sucks).

Yeah the guy lives in Dallas, he's talking about trying to make some money off the perdiem. How much perdiem do you think he can make in a month? 25K is bad, but it's not as bad as I thought really.

 

[CitationLover]

Yeah the guy lives in Dallas, he's talking about trying to make some money off the perdiem. How much perdiem do you think he can make in a month? 25K is bad, but it's not as bad as I thought really.

expect about 150hrs TAFB on reserve (highly variable) so at $1.60/hr that works out to $240/mo (which is included in the 25.5k i mentioned above). next year i believe per diem is $1.65 and with the iai i would expect the above annual earnings to increase by another 1.5-2%.

 

[Flybet3]

expect about 150hrs TAFB on reserve (highly variable) so at $1.60/hr that works out to $240/mo (which is included in the 25.5k i mentioned above). next year i believe per diem is $1.65 and with the iai i would expect the above annual earnings to increase by another 1.5-2%.

Dang, do you know what the insurance rate is for a guy like him?

 

[Swaayze]

Family top of the line plan is about $250/mo for UHC PPO Co-pay. Slightly less for the PPO Deductible and there's a min coverage option that I think is about half as much but requires large deductible. Pretty good bennies IMO.

Pay is guaranteed $1716.75/mo gross. Subtract 7.65% for FICA and whatever his effective tax rate would be when filing (usually quite a bit less than the tax bracket you're in due to exemptions/deductions). Add to that about $400 non-taxable per diem (250 hours TAFB x $1.60). If he doesn't like days off he can try to pick up some OT, maybe 10 hours at a 20% premium for another $275 gross.

DFW is likely within the first few months if he gets Saab, EMJ, or CRJ. If he gets stuck in the ATR he'll be eligible to move to a jet (and hence DFW) in 14 months.

 

[Flybet3]

Family top of the line plan is about $250/mo for UHC PPO Co-pay. Slightly less for the PPO Deductible and there's a min coverage option that I think is about half as much but requires large deductible. Pretty good bennies IMO.

Pay is guaranteed $1716.75/mo gross. Subtract 7.65% for FICA and whatever his effective tax rate would be when filing (usually quite a bit less than the tax bracket you're in due to exemptions/deductions). Add to that about $400 non-taxable per diem (250 hours TAFB x $1.60). If he doesn't like days off he can try to pick up some OT, maybe 10 hours at a 20% premium for another $275 gross.

DFW is likely within the first few months if he gets Saab, EMJ, or CRJ. If he gets stuck in the ATR he'll be eligible to move to a jet (and hence DFW) in 14 months.

Sounds good, I have a friend that's a captain there and he told me that he could walk in my friend's resume and there's a good chance he could get the CRJ700? Is this true? Are they really that short? Well my friend told me that it's due to the future AA recalls

 

[labbats]

I made roughly $1500 a month first year after taxes. This is flying as little as possible on RSV with no OT.

 

[Flybet3]

I made roughly $1500 a month first year after taxes. This is flying as little as possible on RSV with no OT.

How much do you get paid for doing OT?

 

[labbats]

120% if you pick it up in open time. 150% if you pick it up same day.

Picking up OT on first year pay is foolish though. 120% of nothing is nothing.

 

[industrystd]

I will make about 46,000 to 47,000 this year. I am on third year pay. I did an avg of days off a month and its about 12-13. Try to work the system as much as possible. My money months are my training months. 120+ hours of pay aug and sep. The other months avg was about 90-100 hrs of pay. Avg flying for each month was about 80-85.
Yes the flow backs are leaving, which is good but it will be awhile before all of them are gone. It will take 1700 recalls for all of them to be off eagles sen list. 150 should go within the next year or so if they recall 500. The rest of them are higher up the AA sen list. Mostly TWA fellas. We shall see how many take the recall. Hopfully only 50%.

 

[Flybet3]

I will make about 46,000 to 47,000 this year. I am on third year pay. I did an avg of days off a month and its about 12-13. Try to work the system as much as possible. My money months are my training months. 120+ hours of pay aug and sep. The other months avg was about 90-100 hrs of pay. Avg flying for each month was about 80-85.
Yes the flow backs are leaving, which is good but it will be awhile before all of them are gone. It will take 1700 recalls for all of them to be off eagles sen list. 150 should go within the next year or so if they recall 500. The rest of them are higher up the AA sen list. Mostly TWA fellas. We shall see how many take the recall. Hopfully only 50%.

Yeah I just spoke with an AA captain, the guys said he already has alot of friends that are not going to take the recall. Sounds like AA is getting back on its feet. Hey 46K is not to bad. That includes perdiem right?

 

[ballsdeep123]

allllllrighty....first year pay at eagle...ha...don't plan on breaking guarantee ever! 75 hours a month x 23.50....wahtever that is....barely any per diem...yea lookin at about 12 to 1300 a MONTH...and if you commute you're gonna make even less money because EAGLE and AMERICAN take money out of your pay check everytime you ride in the back of one of their planes!!!!! So figure on losing another 100 a month if you commute. If eagle wants to be a competitive airline and hire sooo many pilots they're gonna have to raise the pay somehow....with the reserve and upgrade time....why the hell would anyone want to work here??

 

[shroomwell]

ballsdeep,

You like the rest of us are a master of the obvious. However managment doesn't realize this nor care. As evidence of our management's intellect, they just sent an email for an Employee Appreciation Picnic, the kicker is that it costs the employee $5 to attend.

 

[Flybet3]

ballsdeep,

You like the rest of us are a master of the obvious. However managment doesn't realize this nor care. As evidence of our management's intellect, they just sent an email for an Employee Appreciation Picnic, the kicker is that it costs the employee $5 to attend.

MUAAHAHAHA! Holy crap that sux!!!

 

[Swaayze]

One of the big deterrents here is that HR cannot tell you what airplanes/domiciles will be available in a given class. If you believe what they tell you prepare to be disappointed. There are occasionally some CRJ newhire slots, though it seems that DFW is well staffed on that airplane and they may have realigned some of the CRJ flying to the ORD domicile recently. Most likely for DFW is a Saab slot (1st year pay is the same and then you can choose your jet after the 14 month lock in the Saab). I'd definitely choose DFW or LAX Saab over ORD CRJ if I wanted to have the earliest shot at DFW, just in case.

 

[Flybet3]

One of the big deterrents here is that HR cannot tell you what airplanes/domiciles will be available in a given class. If you believe what they tell you prepare to be disappointed. There are occasionally some CRJ newhire slots, though it seems that DFW is well staffed on that airplane and they may have realigned some of the CRJ flying to the ORD domicile recently. Most likely for DFW is a Saab slot (1st year pay is the same and then you can choose your jet after the 14 month lock in the Saab). I'd definitely choose DFW or LAX Saab over ORD CRJ if I wanted to have the earliest shot at DFW, just in case.

What's a typical day in the Saab? I imagine you won't bee flying too far, mostly short hops right?

 

[Swaayze]

Yeah, short hops like DFW-Kileen, DFW-Wichita Falls, DFW-Lawton, DFW-Lafayette, etc. Usually 3-6 legs a day.

 

[Flybet3]

Yeah, short hops like DFW-Kileen, DFW-Wichita Falls, DFW-Lawton, DFW-Lafayette, etc. Usually 3-6 legs a day.

Are you back in DFW every day, or do they still do 3 day trips on the Saab?

 

[Swaayze]

From a quick scan of the bid lines it looks like all 2 and 4 day trips.

 

[Flybet3]

From a quick scan of the bid lines it looks like all 2 and 4 day trips.

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[8AF]

If your friend wants the job why doesn't he/she do the research? Freight doesn't work out for you?

 

[Flybet3]

If your friend wants the job why doesn't he/she do the research? Freight doesn't work out for you?

The guy is not a flight info member. I'm taking the liberty to ask questions to give him some guidenance. Not to many "good" freight operators around here. I shouldn't say good, I meant to say reputable.