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American and JetBlue negotiating a code-share agreement

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Ted Reed
08/16/10 - 01:42 PM EDT

DALLAS (TheStreet) -- American Airlines(AMR) and JetBlue(JBLU) are negotiating a code-share agreement that could be in place as early as the first quarter of 2011.

"We are negotiating, working towards perhaps a code-share in the future," Art Torno, American's vice president for New York told TheStreet. He emphasized that no agreement has been reached so far.
JetBlue and American Airlines
An American Airlines aircraft (left) and two JetBlue planes (right) taxi on a runway at New York's Kennedy International Airport.

A code-share, which enables airlines to sell tickets on one another's flights, would be a natural step in the increasing cooperation between American and JetBlue, which in March announced plans to work together in New York where both operate hubs at Kennedy International Airport.

The initial deal involved an interline agreement enabling sales on one another's flights, but the proceeds are remitted directly to the operating carrier. In a code-share, revenue is pro-rated between the airlines and each airline can put its own code on the other's flight. Interline agreements are far more common: American has about 135 interline partners. Both arrangements enable baggage exchange between carriers.

Torno said he has worked closely with JetBlue CEO Dave Barger since the initial deal was announced, but the two carriers want to take things slowly. "We're taking baby steps to make sure that what we are doing makes sense," he said. "Whatever we implement, we want to make sure it works."

As the biggest aviation market in the world, New York is hotly contested. Delta(DAL) said last week it will spend $1.2 billion to upgrade its facilities at JFK .

Meanwhile, a merger between United(UAUA) and Continental(CAL) means the combined carrier will push more traffic through the latter's Newark hub.

Torno said American has a competitive advantage with its $1.3 billion JFK terminal and plans over time to move its alliance partners British Airways and Iberia into the terminal as well. Additionally, if a trans-Pacific joint venture with JAL is approved, that carrier would also be expected to move to the American terminal.
 
So, AMR's strategy is clear. With the APA being neutered, AMR shifts domestic flying to JetBlue and Eagle, mainline does some international but rely more on BA/Iberia/JAL to bring them passengers to put on Eagle/JetBlue. Wow, great strategy. Airline slowly dies, no pilots recalled. 8 years on the street no end in sight.
 
So, AMR's strategy is clear. With the APA being neutered, AMR shifts domestic flying to JetBlue and Eagle, mainline does some international but rely more on BA/Iberia/JAL to bring them passengers to put on Eagle/JetBlue. Wow, great strategy. Airline slowly dies, no pilots recalled. 8 years on the street no end in sight.


At least you are a member of the oneworld alliance pilots association. Who do the other pilot groups belong to as well? IFALPA?
 
Fortunetly they're not ALPO, as if things could be worse..........
 
IF-ALPA only had some balls.
So management makes the decisions. They enter into the code-share agreement and ALPA is at fault? Please explain this logic. ALPA has not bought one airplane, made one code-share agreement but they are the bad guy? We won't throw stones at the million dollar executives who make the decisions and get rich off our raw hides. But we will blame ALPA. Your anger is aimed at the wrong enemy!
 
Since your disappointed in ALPA's actions (even though they aren't involved with either airline), what's SWAPA doing about this?


Point taken.... SWA is going to have to deal with international issues sooner or later.... otherwise they won't grow....

It's a big world out there for an in house union to not even have a "passport"
 

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