Am I the only one taking abuse in the jumpseat?

[California]

I'm a chill guy and yes, I have jumpseat manners.

After the usuall reaming. I am thankfull for getting a ride.

Last flight in the jumpseat,
"when are you guys going to grow some balls and start getting paid to fly jets"
UAL CA

Previous flight
"when are you going to get a real job"
UAL FO

Next previous flight
"i bet you would take my job for 80k a year"
DAL CA

 

[threegreen]

Wow that is very unprofessional

 

[Canucit]

what comes around goes around you'll get your chance one of these days

 

[taloft]

All in good fun, of course...

"when are you guys going to grow some balls and start getting paid to fly jets"
UAL CA

As soon as you grow a pair and start flying turboprops.

"when are you going to get a real job"
UAL FO

You mean like yours? LOL

"i bet you would take my job for 80k a year"
DAL CA

Oh, I'd take it for much less than that.

 

[Steveair]

Are You a Go-Jet FO?

If you are (and it doesn't sound like it)... I'd say get used to it. Additionally, don't plan on ever working at another airline because they will never hire you.

 

[relief tube]

there's not a chance that 3 flights in a row, you got all that. Aside from Go-jets, not many other places to work would deserve to garner such remarks. What airline do you work for?

 

[Dave Benjamin]

I've commuted quite a bit on UAL over the past few years. No complaints. I've been treated quite well actually. I have trouble believing you caught so much grief in the course of the last few flights even if you do work for G0-Jets. Judging by your profile and avatar I'm guessing you work for SkyWest unless you jumped ship in the hopes of a quick upgrade at an alter ego carrier.

 

[Burt Reynolds]

I work for Eagle and I've never received any negative comments in the jumpseat.

However, the other day I was non-reving on Southwest and the flight attendant made a crack about American saying that if you chose to break the law and smoke in the lav that it would cost you $2000 and if you wanted to spend $2000 to get to Dallas you'd fly American. That seemed kinda unprofessional. I'd never imagine any of our crews making a similar announcement on a PA...

 

[Phony Marconi]

Southwest (flight attendant) made a crack about American saying that if you chose to break the law and smoke in the lav that it would cost you $2000 and if you wanted to spend $2000 to get to Dallas you'd fly American. That seemed kinda unprofessional. I'd never imagine any of our crews making a similar announcement on a PA...

That's pretty funny, I think. I bet a few passengers chuckled.

You'd never imagine your crews saying that....and your Company sucks!

Look, SWA is a successful airline. They encourage employee initiative and their pulse is to have fun on the job. They are a professional, well-run Company.

How professional are the 25-year hags that staff the legacy carriers? If biatchiness, nastyness, and poutiness are virtues, then they totally rule.

 

[BigLebowski]

California...I have to say that I ride in the jumpseat with UAL more often than I'd like to. Everytime I even talk to one of them in the jumpseat or just around the terminal they are the friendliest group of pilots I have ever met. They always seem concerned about what is becoming of the current company that I work for and the wonderful alter-ego. They seem concerned as for my future in the industry offer positive advice.

It honestly sounds to me like you're someone flying for an alter-ego...because no matter what pilot I talk to they have never made a remark to me even remotely close to the ones you received "three times in a row."

 

[Mike man]

...would cost you $2000 and if you wanted to spend $2000 to get to Dallas...

Have you read the two page spread in the American Airlines inflight mag regarding the Wright Ammendment??? Read it and then see where he/she is coming from.

 

[blackbox]

i heard that same comment on a SWA flight too but the referred to Delta. I thought it was funny. I dont think its unprofessional,its SWA's corporate culture to have fun.

I remember on another flight on SWA, the FA sang...zippe a dee doo da zipppa dee day, thanks for flying Southwest airlines today.....blah blah bla....zippity doo da zippity dday if you dont like my singing fly TWA.

they are just having fun.

 

[~~~^~~~]

On the Delta jumpseat, I have been asked:

You seem like a good guy, why don't you go to College and get a job at Delta?

How many ASA pilots have College Degrees?

Do you have a DUI? Is there some reason you fly for ASA?

Not funny, but it provides an opportunity to answer their questions - and mention the fact that more than 85% of the ASA pilot list has degrees and I'm guessing a high percentage have Master's and higher levels of post graduate education - like many of the "regional" pilots these days.

 

[doug_or]

New guy over here was getting a jump seat on Maesaba, and the captain looked at his temp cert, spit on it, and laughed "look the ink's still wet".

 

[Plug]

On the Delta jumpseat, I have been asked:

You seem like a good guy, why don't you go to College and get a job at Delta?

How many ASA pilots have College Degrees?

Do you have a DUI? Is there some reason you fly for ASA?

Not funny, but it provides an opportunity to answer their questions - and mention the fact that more than 85% of the ASA pilot list has degrees and I'm guessing a high percentage have Master's and higher levels of post graduate education - like many of the "regional" pilots these days.

Oh come on Fins, you are probably telling only parts of a conversation. The discussion of scope, one of your personal favorites, was probably brought up. And if it was back in 99 or 2000 then it was kind of a rough time with the PID and all. I'm sure the conversation had more to it than just some DAL guys bashing the poor little regional guy. I have been asked on several occasions "You have a ride but please tell me you don't support that f-ing lawsuit?" in which I respond "Hell NO!!!" and we RJDC bash the rest of the time. ;-)

 

[suupah]

i've jumped on UAL a handful of times and their captains have always been really cool. they always introduce me to the lead flight attendant and try to get me into first class.

 

[737 Pylt]

On the Delta jumpseat, I have been asked:

You seem like a good guy, why don't you go to College and get a job at Delta?

How many ASA pilots have College Degrees?

Do you have a DUI? Is there some reason you fly for ASA?

Not funny, but it provides an opportunity to answer their questions - and mention the fact that more than 85% of the ASA pilot list has degrees and I'm guessing a high percentage have Master's and higher levels of post graduate education - like many of the "regional" pilots these days.

What the guy was referring to fins was the fact he knew you were an rjdc supporter and the comment was directed just towards you!
Fins has a great way of slamming the DL pilots and omitting parts of his story!
737

 

[sky fly]

hey 737 pylt i have heard a lot about you and your little whyning fits. i heard that you should change your name to 737 crybaby. and whats up with rectum nearly killed em crap? you should be worried about some rectum you should be woried about your next job

 

[~~~^~~~]

What the guy was referring to fins was the fact he knew you were an rjdc supporter and the comment was directed just towards you!

Back when I used to ride the Delta jumpseat the RJDC had not been thought up yet. In fact, there was an expectation that ALPA would treat us like an acquired airline, in keeping with past practice, the union's Constitution and Bylaws and National Labor Law. Even the Delta Heritage Museum printed up a big display citing the "Merger of ASA into Delta Airlines." We were worried about alter ego whip saw and saw the opportunity to stop the race for the bottom (before most people realized there was going to be a race to the bottom) But, when you asked the Delta pilots why not staple the ASA guys, their response was inevitably that ASA's pilots were sub standard - usually uneducated and drunks. I never understood that attitude.

Today we all know the Delta pilots would have been better off if they had stapled ASA's pilots, Delta had the right sized jets and not a bunch of 40 and 50 seaters, as well as all the flying and all the votes. That old saying about pride coming before the fall is remarkably true.

But it is not just the Delta pilots. Delta has so fragmented their operation that it took employees of five different companies to get our airplane out of the gate a couple days ago. None of these employees seem to like eachother, or work well together. We left the gate 3 hours late, but it was entirely preventable. The next flight cancelled for the same exact reasons we were delayed. Delta had a 767 there, but it had been several feet deep in the mud after a taxiway excursion and I don't know if they could have carried any revenue back to ATL. Not that any managers would have thought to ask the question whether an empty airplane could be used to rescue passengers stranded on Christmas day. No flippin wonder Delta is going out of business....

 

[kngarthur]

I'm a chill guy and yes, I have jumpseat manners.

After the usuall reaming. I am thankfull for getting a ride.

Last flight in the jumpseat,
"when are you guys going to grow some balls and start getting paid to fly jets"
UAL CA

Previous flight
"when are you going to get a real job"
UAL FO

Next previous flight
"i bet you would take my job for 80k a year"
DAL CA

Did that UAL FO touch you!!!!???

 

[737 Pylt]

another screen name for chuck/lawman

hey 737 pylt i have heard a lot about you and your little whyning fits. i heard that you should change your name to 737 crybaby. and whats up with rectum nearly killed em crap? you should be worried about some rectum you should be woried about your next job

Hey look, chuck is cowering behind another screen name. Come on jr. even you can do better than that! You truly are a pathetic punk kid. Make sure to go cry to mommy and daddy that nobody will play in the sand box with you. And don't get beat up during recess!
737

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[737 Pylt]

[quote Today we all know the Delta pilots would have been better off if they had stapled ASA's pilots, Delta had the right sized jets and not a bunch of 40 and 50 seaters, as well as all the flying and all the votes. That old saying about pride coming before the fall is remarkably true.[/quote]

Fins:
This is ONE issue where you and I both agree!
737

 

[sky fly]

hey 737 crybaby i have talked to chuck but i am not him you are just mad because you cant get a boyfriend and because you went bankrupt. chuck told me all about you and your little fits you throw online thoughwe PM each other all of the time. another reason i cant be chuck we fly for two different companys jack hole

 

[EMB170Pilot]

hey 737 crybaby i have talked to chuck but i am not him you are just mad because you cant get a boyfriend and because you went bankrupt. chuck told me all about you and your little fits you throw online thoughwe PM each other all of the time. another reason i cant be chuck we fly for two different companys jack hole

Why dont you 2 get a room?

 

[Captain X]

Additionally, don't plan on ever working at another airline because they will never hire you.

You say that like it's the Union leaders that get to do the hiring at airlines.

Remember that HR departments are MANAGEMENT driven entities and pro-management attitudes will probably get one further in an interview than pro-union attitudes.

If he does indeed work for who you think he does than a pilot recruiter may think to himself...."hmmm, this guys seems like the type that we could rely on to help us out when times are tough because he thinks of himself before his union or fellow pilots."

 

[PCL_128]

You say that like it's the Union leaders that get to do the hiring at airlines.

Remember that HR departments are MANAGEMENT driven entities and pro-management attitudes will probably get one further in an interview than pro-union attitudes.

If he does indeed work for who you think he does than a pilot recruiter may think to himself...."hmmm, this guys seems like the type that we could rely on to help us out when times are tough because he thinks of himself before his union or fellow pilots."

Any decent airline has a pilot hiring board that reviews the applicants also. Management doesn't make the decisions themselves. The only airline jobs that guys like this are able to get are the non-skeds and occasionally one of them slips through the cracks at Jetblue it seems. Other than that, your career is pretty much screwed after scabbing or working at a Freedumb/Ho-Jets type carrier.

 

[sky fly]

Why dont you 2 get a room?

hey why dont you and michael jackson get a room queer face. seems to me you and him have a lot in commen.

 

[737 Pylt]

hey 737 crybaby i have talked to chuck but i am not him you are just mad because you cant get a boyfriend and because you went bankrupt. chuck told me all about you and your little fits you throw online thoughwe PM each other all of the time. another reason i cant be chuck we fly for two different companys jack hole

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I'm surprised with his zipper down and your mouth full you can actually speak..Chuck, you really need to get a life kid, now go away, you bother me! Maybe you can create another screen name to hide behind!
737

 

[inbound]

hey why dont you and michael jackson get a room queer face. seems to me you and him have a lot in commen.

WEAK....sky fly.....I got nothing else.....

 

[merlindrvr88]

Yeah, grow up.

I'm a chill guy and yes, I have jumpseat manners.

After the usuall reaming. I am thankfull for getting a ride.

Last flight in the jumpseat,
"when are you guys going to grow some balls and start getting paid to fly jets"
UAL CA

Previous flight
"when are you going to get a real job"
UAL FO

Next previous flight
"i bet you would take my job for 80k a year"
DAL CA

The regionals are ruining the industry, and you guys need to start asking for more money. Take your union, and get rid of them. The regionals are going to own the industry real soon, and you need to stick up for you guys. Get good contracts, and stop being happy about flying a jet, any idiot can do that. It is all about quality of life and pay. Wake up, you are taking over the majors flying, so your job is permanent. Good luck.