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Am i screwed..plz help

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Why and What

Caveat: I have not "practiced" for a few years and any information provided below is for informational purposes ONLY.

First, I know that it will not help, but I can shed a little light on the "WHY." The attorney was hired (or appointed) to provide his client the best defense/counsel possible. Evidence is a proffer to "an out of court statement to offer the truth of the matter asserted," that being said, there are many evidentiary rules. Statements can include business records, medical records, video and audio tapes, etc.

Skipping over the things that are not relevant in this discussion, the most basic issue is the veracity of the witness. When a witness is testifying, i.e., providing evidence, counsel can assert that witness is unreliable and said counsel has different evidentiary rules to assist in proving the reliability/truthfulness of the witness.

In your case, counsel could have run a background check and found your former felony. Most, if not all jurisdictions, do not permit "prior criminal acts" to be admitted for more than 10 years old (we'll skip the few exceptions). So, the attorney new about your prior felony, but couldn't bring it up. He decided to keep after you, [probably] thinking that he could prove that you were an unreliable witness; which in turn would limit the use of your testimony to the jury and help his client.

NOTE: I neither condone or approve of such behavior, however, the attorney was trying to find every possible way to assist his client, albeit over-zealously.

Now, here is what I do not understand. I believe the FAA medical records are private and cannot be viewed unless there is a release; what I am trying to say, I don't think a FOIA request should have permitted counsel to obtain copies. If it is true that a FOIA request would bar release of medical records, then HOW did the attorney obtain your records? A little research in this area is needed.......

Questions you need to be asking yourself:
1. Did he obtain the records under false pretenses?
2. Who provided the records?


Now, the attorney went beyond his scope and contacted your employer, the FAA, and Homeland Security. Now it is time for you to provide damage control.

First, you previously did check the box stating that you have a felony. It has been noted in prior records. Upon receipt of your next medical, check it in the affirmative. There may or may not be questions from the AME. This issue I would suggest contacting an aviation attorney for assistance. Someone suggested AOPA legal services. I second that recommendation.

Next, the employers. Do you have copies of your application? Does it state anywhere "have you ever...."? This could be where you have the biggest issues. If you checked "yes" and discussed it, then you are ok. If you checked "no" to the felony question/arrests etc. then there are a few issues. The employer can always dismiss an individual for lying/fasifying employment applications.

Finally, Homeland Security. I believe the new applications have a restriction of felonies to 10 years (or less). If that is the case, you were not required to notify HSA because their time-line does not require it.


Finally, you might be wondering if there is any recourse against the attorney for bringing the records into the trial. It depends. It depends upon how the records were obtained from the FAA. It depends on your state's Attorney Grievance Commission. One thing that is taken extremely seriously is [alleged] misconduct of attorneys. The regulating committees of each state will investigate, however, you have to find an charge that is investigable, i.e., obtaining the records vis-a-vis fraud.

Everyone has spoken to and provided words of encourgement. Please take care of yourself.
 
Honesty

Honesty is the best policy with the FAA, they are only going to punish you worse if you get a lawyer and play games, even still if anything happens at all, they may suspend your **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** license for a few days. better than having it get revoked.

Good Luck
 
FurloughGal...wow....

Really good and informative post.....I am sure this young man appreciates this information, I certainly do and wil keep it on file if ever needed...

We have Kathy AKA Resume Writer for HR stuff and job prep...

Now I vote for you to be our Paralegal....good stuff...thanks and I wish this young man the best.....
 
Hey man, we all have f***ed up lives. Welcome to our community. Glad you had the courage to open up and get it off your chest. Keep doing that!


I wouldn't worry too much about the FAA or your job just yet. People are usually too lazy to forth any effort to investigate something like this. There are some issues here....but don't get too worked up over it.

You WILL pull through this....just hang in there. You will be laughing about it next year!

Don't hesitate to talk to us.
 
The atty's questioning during cross would seem to indicate s/he obtained a previous application for a medical certificate.

I would call AOPA, get my own atty, and investigate how this atty obtained that information.

And on my next application for a medical, I'd check the felony box, and write 'Previously reported, no change', in the explanation box.
 
I'm not sure what the best course of action is but I wish you the best of luck and hope you cheer up.

PS- great flick...very twisted, but hillarious!!!
 
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I don't believe that our medical applications are public record. Just the fact that you applied for one is, not the actual data that we provide on the form.
 
don't hang yourself. deal only with the known and don't fear the unknown. don't panic. don't be hasty. take your time. it is not the end of the world. your career will most probably not suffer. get some expert advise. these people are experts when it comes to pilot medicals.

http://www.aviationmedicine.com

sorry about the divorce. above all else- persevere.
 
I would like to thank everyone for their kind words. Everyone is always ripping each other in flightinfo that i am taken by surprise how nice everyone is.

Furloughgirl, i received more information regarding my case. The district attorney contacted a regional flight surgeon and the flight surgeon told the DA about my failure to mark the box. The DA then contacted Homeland Security and told them that they should look into me. The DA then contacted the FAA in OKC to get a copy of all my records. When the DA presented the evidence in court, the Judge asked the DA why would you want to ruin someone that has been clean and his career. The judge then threw out all the medical records and told the DA not to even bring about my conviction in order to discredit me.

I am not a legal expert but its hard to believe that someone could get my record without going through the proper channels. Lastly, i just want to thank everyone and i dont want to make excuses because i know that i am wrong in making the error. Its just so hard with everything else going on and with the holidays here.

No delay, you are right that many of us have **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**ed up lives. After watching the news today, i know that i dont have it harder than the families who lost loved ones in Iraq. I sat in front of my tv and realized that no matter how bad i have it and how bad my luck is, that others have it worse and my heart goes out to the families.

thanks everyone for your sympathies and i am hoping for the best.
 

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