ALPA's Stance on NYPD Giving Themselves the Power to Shoot Down Planes????

[Voice Of Reason]

This is crazy! Apparently this interview was last night on 60 mins and they were talking about it on the Today Show this morning.

Wondering what ALPA's stance will be on this?
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NEW YORK (AP) — The chief of the New York Police Department says city police could take down a plane if necessary.
Commissioner Ray Kelly tells CBS' "60 Minutes" that after the Sept. 11 attacks, he decided the city couldn't rely on the federal government alone. He set about creating the NYPD's own counter-terrorism unit. He says the department is prepared for multiple scenarios and could even take down a plane.
Kelly didn't divulge details but said "obviously this would be in a very extreme situation."
Other measures include sending NYPD officers abroad, using radiation detectors and creating a network of surveillance cameras in Manhattan.
The interview airs Sunday evening. It comes two weeks after the tenth anniversary of 9/11, when hijackers flew planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

 

[COpilot]

Don't get a clearance to do VFR down the Hudson.

 

[OPECJet]

Gotta love NYC and their overreach into other jurisdictions. Sort of like when NYPD agents went and bought firearms from a gunshow in AZ.

So how exactly are they going to take down an airliner? Pull up behind it in a helicopter and shoot it down? Barrett 50BMG maybe? Ram it?

That dude needs his head examined, but then again so do most of the clowns running NYC....

 

[Baronman]

Gotta love NYC and their overreach into other cities' jurisdictions. Sort of like when NYPD agents went and bought firearms from a gunshow in AZ.
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They even have officers overseas collecting intelligence. This isn't your local suburban police force who spends 90% of their time handing out speeding tickets and mopping up crime scenes.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I caught this segment on 60 mins with Kelly. The amount of cameras the city has now is amazing.

 

[OPECJet]

They even have officers overseas collecting intelligence. This isn't your local suburban police force who spends 90% of their time handing out speeding tickets and mopping up crime scenes.

Maybe it should be....

 

[chris69]

With what? Will they get permission from the Governor to "deputize" some NG/ANG personel within ADA units that employ Stingers or ANG AD units? Anything bigger than a Cessna will require some sort of a MANPAD/SAM. What about an airliner? Now you're talking Patriot or SM2 (USN). Air-to-Air? Need a fighter (high/fast/large) or attack helicopter (low/slow/small). Maybe a NYPD Helo with a big rifle for small stuff? Except for a .50 Cal sniper rifle, I don't think a police force, even NYPD, are Constitutionally authorized military equipment of the scale noted above.

 

[ExAF]

With what? Will they get permission from the Governor to "deputize" some NG/ANG personel within ADA units that employ Stingers or ANG AD units? Anything bigger than a Cessna will require some sort of a MANPAD/SAM. What about an airliner? Now you're talking Patriot or SM2 (USN). Air-to-Air? Need a fighter (high/fast/large) or attack helicopter (low/slow/small). Maybe a NYPD Helo with a big rifle for small stuff? Except for a .50 Cal sniper rifle, I don't think a police force, even NYPD, are Constitutionally authorized military equipment of the scale noted above.

It wouldn't surprise me if they had a couple of Stingers and personnel trained to use them. That being said, I would love to know who would have the authority to authorize them shooting down and aircraft. Especially an airliner.

 

[Baronman]

Maybe it should be....

Maybe not. Like it or not NYC is one of the safest big cities in the US. That's not accomplished by having a couple guys in cruisers watching mom pull out of Wallmart and getting her for not signaling.

You have officers on the streets where the people are, walking a beat. You saw how they handled those Wall Street protesters a couple days ago? The protesters would have loved to video a cop giving a severe beat down to one of those clowns but it didn't happen.

You're not going to keep order in a city of 8 million with cops whose focus is parking tickets.

 

[OPECJet]

You don't fight petty street crime by doing surveillance OCONUS either. Same with straw firearm purchases in AZ (I'll self disclose that if Bloomberg weren't the mayor that would not likely be happening).