If you want to believe that, be my guest. We have to live with the line where Delta chooses to put it. You may think that the Delta MEC is Delta, but that thought is just another one of your many delusions. Every time your contract becomes amendable, Delta can put your scope on the table and they will. When all the BS is over, you will wind up with whatever Delta chooses to give you. We are in the same boat. When it comes to this aspect of the situation we are not nearly as different as you would like to believe.
<<< In the same boat? Scope is a hot item. It is extremely difficult for wither side to change scope drastically. If we are in the same boat, maybe I should sue too.>>>
The day you decide to strike, you will have to deal first with the Government to see if the President appoints a PEB. If he does, you will then have the option of accepting the PEB recommendations or not. If you don't, the President may allow you to strike or may have the Congress tell you what you will accept. If you are allowed to strike, you will then be dealing with the Company and a fleet of several hundred RJs, operated by six different airlines, all of which will continue to carry Delta's domestic traffic, while you walk the line. Just as it was in the Comair strike. Granted you will have much more leverage than we did, but you will not have the ability to completely stop the company from operating. If they can keep 30% of the domestic passengers moving, it won't be too long before you settle on their terms. The sad story is that the upper 2/3 of your list aren't going to risk their jobs at Delta just to keep a few more RJs from flying to please the lower 1/3 of your list.
<<Interesting scenario. The PEB is what kept Delta from striking in this contract. You tout us for it on the ALPA boards, yet try and use it to your advantage on these boards. 30% of the domestic passengers??? You plannin on scabbin if we do strike. How do you get 40% or even 45% of the block hours into 30% of the passengers?!? Wow'em with numbers. BTW, I happen to be in the upper 2/3rds of the list and will risk my job in a heartbeat. 7-777's. Things are a changin around here. Many more are finding themselves moving backwards here into that middle third--and they're pissed.>>>
It seems to me there are far better ways to deal with the problems before it gets to that nasty scenario. Perhaps the junior 1/3 of your list should rethink its position.
<<Of course it would. You are where you are. What do you have to lose? I guess we should just cave into terrorism as well so it doesn't get any uglier in this country.>>>
Thanks, but I'll pass on trying to twist that. Candidly, the lack of coherence prevents me from even understanding whatever you're trying to say. There's nothing there to rebut.
<<<Nothing to rebut is a far cry from "unable to rebut". The administrative manual along with the C&BL does not allow for similar pilot groups under one umbrella. This "operational integration" is defined by a seat number in the Delta PWA. Although I do not agree that DCi and Delta are operationally integrated, I also do not agree that Midway and Delta are operationally integrated. One purchase did not require the merge, one would. I agree that there is probably a better way of establishing "operational integration", but I do not find our current system absolutely unreasonable. Clear enough??? Probably not.>>>
I pretty much have the picture that you don't care. It's too bad (for you) that you fail to realize that your attitudes are actually hurting your own more than your intended victims. I also have come to realize that many of you don't know enough to care. Happily there are many more pilots at Delta who are much smarter than that and I think those do care. There are also nearly a thousand very junior Delta pilots on the streets and I'm sure they care too.
<<<More twisting. I guess you could find a clear enough argument so you had to go to the spin. There are no intended victims. That martyr complex is kicking in again. Posts and posts on this and other forums have gradually drawn out the true agenda of the RJDC folk as well as some others. It is these folk I could really care less about. They have brought it all upon themselves. You speak of me on a pedestal, yet I do not speak of having the gall to "pity" another's plight. I'll leave that to you.>>
Personally, I hope the solution does not include seeking one list for I do not see that as being in the best interest of my group. I know that our junior pilots won't agree with me on that part and I will support what they want because they represent the future.
<<<What a worthless statement.>>>
However, I think the time for one list has now passed and we should pursue different methods of resolution. My reason for that is because there is not enough creative thinking in ALPA today to develop a plan that the Company might accept at this stage of the game. They (the Company) are winning big time thanks to the stupidity of the union's decision and the intransigence of your group. Very few teams will forfeit a game that they are winning by a wide margin. Altruism is not one of management's virtues nor is it part of their job description.
I think there are other ways that we might use to restore the balance of power between management and the union, but that presupposes that we can first give the term "union" some significant meaning. If your rhetoric is representative of the Delta pilot group, there is no hope of that. Things will just have to run their course and we'll see how the chips fall.
I'll leave the rest of what you wrote without comment. Not enough substance to warrant the effort.
You take care buddy and fly safe. I wish you well, notwithstanding that I think you are so far out in left field that you're not even in the game.
