Alpa vs. Non union regionals

[Detroitpilot22]

Just an observation Check this out:

Alpa carriers
Pinnacle - All of its flying up for bid, lowest paid f/o's in america for the crj, not the greatest scheduling rules, probably going into mediation now with no end in sight in contract negotiations

Mesaba - In bankruptcy, looking at forced 19% paycuts or a strike, losing airplanes, furloughs are reaching the 2 year hire date

ASA - Salt lake city base completely taken away and replaced by skywest pilots - have been in mediation for years, management trying to get them to take a pay cut, while skywest may get raises

Air Wisconson - Completely kicked out of all or their bases because they lost an RFP, lucky for them they saved us airs butt and got some of their flying

Comair - parked airplanes, pay cuts, imposing work rules

Express Jet - losing 69 airplanes for the time being

Mesa - no comment

Trans States - Created alter ego airline Go Jet - furloughing tsa pilots, crap pay for both

All the legacy carriers have either been or are in bankruptcy and have furloughes


Non Alpa carriers (i know there are more, just naming the big ones)

Chautauqua - Always growing (just won 50 seat flying for continental) not the greatest pay but better than some alpa carriers

Go Jet - gets flying for United at air wisconson's and others demise

SkyWest - will not stop growing, pilots maybe getting a raise, good work rules, everyone seems to love it there


Jetblue/southwest - doing good for now and hiring

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Express Jet - losing 69 airplanes for the time being

O rly?

 

["GO AROUND"]

Hey Dumas,

CHQ is teamsters and I thought Blow Jet was too.

SWA has a very good union.

SKW has a union albeit company paid.



Kinda ruins your whole thread don't it?

And where would those non ALPA carriers pay and work rules, excluding SWA, be without the quality contracts that ALPA carriers have produced over the years be?

 

[illtake2]

Hey you little purple headed woody, if you actually read what he said it says alpa and non alpa carriers, don't read the title of the thread that will throw you off. It is pretty funny how that all works.

 

[wmudriver]

illtake2,

Nice meatbags in your avatar!

"Is this some kind of bust?"

"Why yes, its very impressive"~Lt Frank Drebin

 

[YourPilotFriend]

The struggling carriers have a more senior employee group than the carriers doing well. In 5-10 years it will completely flip flop.

 

[jea]

Looks like alpa is killing regionals like its done with the majors...
who didnt see this coming?- except the alpa kool-aid dependants.
there is Management Kool-aid and alpa kool-aid... the difference is that (some) management actually works for a living rather than complain and say its not fair... alpa has a 4th grade mentality... not all workplaces are going to be equal. not all employees are equally productive.


let the lashing begin...

 

[Bluto]

SKW has a union albeit company paid.

Wrong. No union at SkyWest. SAPA is an employee group. Unions are legally recognized, while SAPA is not.

 

[Detroitpilot22]

sorry about the title of the thread, it was supposed to be Alpa vs. non alpa