ALPA,CCair and Allegheny/Piedmont

[Nevets]

If Colgan was an ALPA carrier would it be your position that DW or JP should not have signed their contract?

What contract?

 

[DoinTime]

If Colgan was an ALPA carrier would it be your position that DW or JP should not have signed their contract?

If Colgan were ALPA prior to Pinnacle's acquisition of them and they then entered into financially unjustified contract concessions intended solely to promote the transfer of flying from the Pinnacle certificate to the Colgan certificate you bet I would fight that with every ounce of my being. I would also expect my national union to take an equal amount of disdain of this cowardly act.

The demise of CCAir lies solely in the lap of Orstein. I cannot believe that there are those who blame their Union.

 

[jdubya]

CC Air was a great place back in the day.
You can't find a group like that anywhere now.

 

[WSurf]

CC Air was a great place back in the day.
You can't find a group like that anywhere now.

Yep! Cheers to the Carolina Cowboys!!!!!!

 

[PCL_128]

I still think your facts are way off.

His facts are just that: facts! ALPA's Admin manual has very specific requirements that must be met before concessionary bargaining can be entered into by an MEC. As DoinTime states, this is to prevent a pilot group from being forced into concessions under duress, which is exactly what JO did to the CCAir pilots. In defiance of ALPA's bargaining policy, the CCAir MEC signed a concessionary TA when JO had never presented any evidence that concessions were necessary. One of the requirements to engage in concessionary bargaining within ALPA is to have received proof of financial duress by the airline. Without that proof, CCAir's MEC was out of line in negotiating concessions. Duane had no choice but to refuse signing that TA, and he was absolutely right. That TA never should have been negotiated in the first place.

 

[J and E's Daddy]

CC Air was a great place back in the day.
You can't find a group like that anywhere now.

Most of us were all local Charlotteans, or Carolinians. and we all had handle or nicknames. Remember Freebird?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tJQsjjb4ds

This was Freebird in his former career.

 

[Bdfg1]

His facts are just that: facts!

We are all familiar with your track record regarding "facts".

See ya!

 

[fowingman]

Is Kernan still at Piedmont?


No matter what people say about him, I always thought he was always a straight shooter, and a decent guy...

 

[OPECJet]

Is Kernan still at Piedmont?


No matter what people say about him, I always thought he was always a straight shooter, and a decent guy...

Yes and agreed.

 

[Godfather]

speaking of nicknames and handles....

Most of us were all local Charlotteans, or Carolinians. and we all had handle or nicknames. Remember Freebird?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tJQsjjb4ds

This was Freebird in his former career.

WWWOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Ain't nothin like ol JW and Ric Flair gettin down that night down in the Ole D Con....LMAO!!!

Speaking of the ol nicknames and handles...Did anyone ever come up with a directory or list of everyone's names, address and nicknames? I know that Furr-burger has the friends things at Yahoo, but I can't find anything else...how many handles were there?

Gunslinger, Boner, Sparky, Chief, Conway, Spud, 22, Bandit, Fred, Bubba...little help here...


Alf....world famous CCAir alum.

 

[Caspian27]

We are all familiar with your track record regarding "facts".

See ya!

As we are yours...

 

[PCL_128]

Is Kernan still at Piedmont?


No matter what people say about him, I always thought he was always a straight shooter, and a decent guy...

He was definitely a nice guy, and I always thought that he was doing things for the right reasons, but his reputation got damaged because of his associations with some of the more militant anti-mainline DCI reps. He tried a run for VP-Admin in '06 and got absolutely no traction.

 

[J and E's Daddy]

WWWOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Ain't nothin like ol JW and Ric Flair gettin down that night down in the Ole D Con....LMAO!!!

Speaking of the ol nicknames and handles...Did anyone ever come up with a directory or list of everyone's names, address and nicknames? I know that Furr-burger has the friends things at Yahoo, but I can't find anything else...how many handles were there?

Gunslinger, Boner, Sparky, Chief, Conway, Spud, 22, Bandit, Fred, Bubba...little help here...


Alf....world famous CCAir alum.

Company Man, Spanky, Two Dollar, Root Dr., Norm, Jay, Rusty, Burr head, Westbound, Flash, Hopsing, Chad'sAss, Harley, Remember the Commander! And 285. #1, 9-5?

 

[Flyin2low]

Go Chicken

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

I used to pass gas for CCAir in CLT in the early '90s. Those guys (and a few gals) were great... Treated me really well like I was one of the bunch. On a hot day they always seemed to have a cold soda laying around for an overheated fueler.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Found this picture and thought you CCAir guys might enjoy it. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Sunbird/Cessna-404-Titan/0019570/L/