Aloha Airlines celebrates

[Whale Rider]

Don't worry Erndogg, In 2 years they're going to be calling it: GO HOME BROKE FROM HAWAII......:laugh:

 

[FlickerFade]

Perhaps we'll all thank this clown. He did cause FlyHi to shut its doors. They might have been more viable with the ATR.

I'll continue to beat this drum until someone produces the #'s, but Mesa doesn't even know how to run a stand-alone airline. Do they Hedge fuel (probably not?) Do they have a model for profitability that will be replicated in HI? (haven't seen one) I'm sure that Independence Air would have loved to rethink their rejection of the UAL agreements.

 

[mdanno808]

Exactly.

Perhaps we'll all thank this clown. He did cause FlyHi to shut its doors. They might have been more viable with the ATR.

I'll continue to beat this drum until someone produces the #'s, but Mesa doesn't even know how to run a stand-alone airline. Do they Hedge fuel (probably not?) Do they have a model for profitability that will be replicated in HI? (haven't seen one) I'm sure that Independence Air would have loved to rethink their rejection of the UAL agreements.

 

[mdanno808]

What's funny is that he thinks anyone in Hawaii cares what he has to say. It's also funny that he has so many positive comments about Aloha. Look on his yahoo website, and see some of the things he said before they came out of BK. He's a kook.

New airline Go Hawaii preparing to launch

Hawaiian Airlines files suit to block its entry for at least two years

By Dave Segal
[email protected]

And the name of Mesa Air Group Inc.'s new interisland airline is ... Go Hawaii.
Jonathan Ornstein, Mesa's chairman and chief executive, said yesterday he would neither confirm nor deny that name. But a person close to the situation said Mesa already has selected that moniker for when the independent airline begins service early in the second quarter.
Mesa also registered the name www.iflygo.com for its Web site in September, according to Internet registrar Network Solutions LLC. The Web site is not yet publicly accessible without a password.
The Phoenix-based carrier was hit with a lawsuit earlier this week by Hawaiian Airlines, which is seeking to block Mesa's entry into Hawaii for at least two years. The suit says Ornstein had access to proprietary information obtained through a nondisclosure agreement when Mesa was looking into investing in Hawaiian two years ago.
Ornstein said he "certainly hopes for the people of Hawaii and ourselves" that Mesa's arrival in the islands is not delayed by the suit.
"We've had enough lawyers look at this, and at this point everyone believes it's without merit," Ornstein said. "I doubt it will have much impact. I think a judge will see through it for what it is."
Hawaiian Airlines attorney Bruce Bennett said the federal Bankruptcy Court closely monitored the reviews of data provided online to parties that signed a confidentiality agreement and that Mesa representatives visited the electronic data room 60 times and downloaded about 2,000 pages, including future projections relating to Hawaiian's business.
"There is a thorough and complete trail," Bennett said.
Mesa has been negotiating with Honolulu Airport for space in the commuter terminal, according to Scott Ishikawa, spokesman for the state Department of Transportation. The commuter terminal currently houses Island Air, PW and Mokulele Airlines, while Hawaiian and Aloha Airlines occupy the interisland terminal.
Ornstein said Aloha is to be congratulated for its emergence from bankruptcy yesterday.
"It's a hard process, and they've done a good job restructuring," he said. "It's been tough, but in the end it will have proven to be very worthwhile. They deserve a lot of credit for pulling together."
Then, in a rebuke to the pending suit from Hawaiian, Ornstein added, "I would urge people to fly Aloha until we get there."

DID THIS GUY GET BEAT ON BY THE OTHER BOYS AT SCHOOL OR DID HIS PARENTS DROP HIM ON HIS HEAD?

 

[Erndogg]

What's funny is that he thinks anyone in Hawaii cares what he has to say. It's also funny that he has so many positive comments about Aloha. Look on his yahoo website, and see some of the things he said before they came out of BK. He's a kook.

Kook, is one of the words that best describe this bafoon. Now he's trying to SUCK UP TO ALOHA after he unsuccessfully tried TO STEAL THIER UNITED CODE SHARE when they were in BK!

He's got a rude awakening coming to him if he continues to show his IGNORANCE!

 

[islandhopper]

DID THIS GUY GET BEAT ON BY THE OTHER BOYS AT SCHOOL OR DID HIS PARENTS DROP HIM ON HIS HEAD?

You nailed it.

An old mesa buddy of mine was in a 24 hr fitness back east wearing a MESA sweatshirt and somebody comes up to him and asks if MESA is the airline owned by Jonathan Ornstien.

My friend, thinking "oh great im about to get reamed about mesa's piss poor service" answers "Yes, thats the same company".

This guy tells my friend, "I went to college with Jonathan Ornstien and everybody hated him. He was a total idiot, his nickname was FROGGY".

Thats all I got, best I can tell its a true story.

 

[islandhopper]

Kook, is one of the words that best describe this bafoon. Now he's trying to SUCK UP TO ALOHA after he unsuccessfully tried TO STEAL THIER UNITED CODE SHARE when they were in BK!

He's got a rude awakening coming to him if he continues to show his IGNORANCE!

He can suck up to us all he wants. We got his number. Have you noticed how many times in the newspapers the words "ORNSTIEN SAID" are there? I hope I catch him in the water. I may have to start going back to Canoes, I caught him telling somebody he is going to get a locker down there.

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

He can suck up to us all he wants. We got his number. Have you noticed how many times in the newspapers the words "ORNSTIEN SAID" are there? I hope I catch him in the water. I may have to start going back to Canoes, I caught him telling somebody he is going to get a locker down there.

Is egging him on a very good idea? He is a wacko, I wouldn't give him the press time or ANY time. He loves that you keep bringing him up. Most egomites do. Stop talking about him and you'll do more damage, IMHO

 

[islandhopper]

Is egging him on a very good idea? He is a wacko, I wouldn't give him the press time or ANY time. He loves that you keep bringing him up. Most egomites do. Stop talking about him and you'll do more damage, IMHO

so i guess my new signature is a bad idea then?

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

so i guess my new signature is a bad idea then?

Actually, I like it!:beer:

 

[islandhopper]

Actually, I like it!:beer:

well, he really said it! I think that sig is a keeper :laugh:

 

[RJP]

Is egging him on a very good idea? He is a wacko, I wouldn't give him the press time or ANY time. He loves that you keep bringing him up. Most egomites do. Stop talking about him and you'll do more damage, IMHO

Sounds so familiar.....like someone on Maui we know.

 

[Capt. X]

Sounds so familiar.....like someone on Maui we know.

I'm curious, who?

 

[RJP]

I'm curious, who?

GK. His name won't print here, it's some sort of voodoo thing.

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

GK. His name won't print here, it's some sort of voodoo thing.

Voodoo. Try Da kine brah

GK BTW, what gave me away?