All Glass G-1000 Time in a Single VS Multi Time

[EDUC8-or]

Recently, a couple of people approached me asking about a checkout in a Cessna 182 with the all glass G-1000 display. One of them is interested in getting his instrument rating in the 182. I'm swamped with students, mostly in the twin and my schedule is extremely busy. I would have to pay to complete my checkout in the 182 (around 200-250 bucks) and money is somewhat tight.

Here is my question: What would look better on my resume, some all glass time in the 182 or more multi time?

 

[73belair]

Multi time with out a doubt.

 

[Flyboy6420]

Go with the multi-time. I've racked up about 1000 hours of EFIS time in Cirrus aircraft, and nobody seems to care one way or the other.

Flyboy6420

 

[puddlejumper]

I would have to pay to complete my checkout in the 182 (around 200-250 bucks) and money is somewhat tight.

You are expected to pay for the checkout to train someone in the airplane?? That's just not right. I would stay far far away from that offer. If you're an independent CFI, I may be able to understand, possibly contributing to fuel-cost. Oh heck, no, no, no. You shouldn't ever have to pay for a checkout in order to instruct in an individual's or flight school's airplane. That's just messed up.

-PJ

 

[ILLINI]

Absolutely without a doubt keep instructing in the twin!

I agree with puddlejumper. No way would I ever pay to get checked out in a plane in order to instruct in it. While the idea of flying an all glass cockpit seems cool, don't let that take time away from you getting time/experience in the multi. If you think you might have some spare time to instruct in the 182, then I would talk to your potential students and tell them that you are willing to get checked out in the aircraft if they split the cost between all of them and pay for it.

The multi PIC is what's going to help you get a job at a regional, corporate, or charter company. Many of the regionals out there are using aircraft with glass cockpits, so a little experience flying a glass cockpit before hand may help make the transition easier. However, the multi PIC is what's going to get you the interview so don't pass that time up.

 

[saabdude]

Single engine time is single engine time. It doesn't matter if your flying a scare-poop (Ercoupe) with the canopy opened or if your flying some glass cockpit 182. Back in my instructing days, I have personally heard students wanting to rent an arrow vs a cherokee because they thought it "would look better" in their logbook. That is true if you want some different experience and you want to stay in general aviation for more of a long-term duration.

Multi time is the golden time most employers are looking for.

 

[DashTrash400]

I personally think glass time is fairly worthless. Sure, on the interview you can plug the fact that you're experienced on glass...but these days I don't think anyone really cares. It's not like the 1980's when you had B707 dinosaur captain types struggling to transition into the 757.

What kills me are all the aviation schools falling over themselves to get an all-glass training fleet so they can promote the fact... "Train in a glass cockpit, just like that shiny RJ you'll be flying in 9 months!" They don't want to tell Jr. that he's gonna have to instruct/freight-dog/whatever for a year or two before climbing into that glass-cockpit RJ, & chances are good they'll be doing it in cockpits that haven't seen an upgrade since the 1970s. Can you imagine blasting off to give your first instrument flight lesson in something with a 6-pack of steam gauges, dual VORs, and an ADF, after having spent your flying life to this point on the G-1000? Transitioning from steam to glass was pretty easy, but when I go back & fly non-glass I find that my scan has gotten rather lazy.

 

[wahoo250]

i dont think anyone will ever ask anything about the 182 at all...

 

[FlyFlyFly]

Most companies are going to want you to have experience programming and operating an FMS, which unless Honeywell and Collins have a new package for the 182, the plane does not have it. EFIS is no big deal... they are just graphical flight and engine instruments.

They are going to want to see multi. Don't waste your time and money on a 182 if you are getting multi experience.

 

[Habib]

EDUC8-

In 2 years from now you will wonder why you ever asked such a question.

MULTI, MULTI, MULTI.

Its like asking what means more, 152 time or Space Shuttle time, but the 152 did have an ADF and the Shuttle did not.

No single person will care at all about the Glass. Not ONE.

P.S. I am not comparing Multi time to flying the shuttle.

 

[EDUC8-or]

Thanks for all of the advice, I'll find another instructor for the 182 checkout and save my money.

 

[JediNein]

Greetings,

I wrote a book on the G1000. That and a buck fifty will get me a cup of coffee. Send the glass guy over here and go get the multi time.

Fly SAFE!
Jedi Nein

 

[RompXS4D]

Multi-Time all the way, don't waste your time in a single with glass. All my airline wanted to know about was multi and pic and now I fly a jet without a single dial guage. Heck I don't even know what they look like any more. Their neat but a waste of money $120 an hour for a new 182 or $75 and hour for one from the 60's , who cares. Just remember this (a single is a single, a 1961 "C182" reads the same as a 2005 "C182" in the logbook.) (a multi is a multi too a 1988 "PA44" reads the same as a 2005 "PA44") get my drift.

Happy hunting?

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

Twin time is key. G1000 time is good to have, but don't replace possible multi with single.

TA

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

P.S. I am not comparing Multi time to flying the shuttle.

I was going to get a "Proud to be a Jewish Astronaut" sticker for my truck until you added this depressing comment!


TA

 

[flyinlow67]

EDUC8-or,

Are you still at MDH or somewhere else? I know SIU isn't going glass! Look how long it took to get the R models they got.

 

[EDUC8-or]

I'm in Daytona Beach. I went to SIUC on a whim after I visited a buddy for Springfest while I was in H.S. and ended up majoring in Elementary Education. I taught for about 5 years before I started flying.

 

[igneousy2]

After you've been at the airlines for awhile you won't be able to tell the difference between an Arrow and a Cherokee let alone a 182 with a G-1000 and one without. Most airlines don't even care if your time was in a caravan, they want to see that multi time. Those are the people that are interviewing you.

If I were in your shoes I wouldn't waste any time getting checked out in the new 182 even if the checkout was FREE. They'll start giving you students for it and that will lessen your availability in the twin.

Most airlines don't even have a place for you to fill in "glass cockpit" time.

Good luck

 

[Steveair]

Recently, a couple of people approached me asking about a checkout in a Cessna 182 with the all glass G-1000 display. One of them is interested in getting his instrument rating in the 182. I'm swamped with students, mostly in the twin and my schedule is extremely busy. I would have to pay to complete my checkout in the 182 (around 200-250 bucks) and money is somewhat tight.

Here is my question: What would look better on my resume, some all glass time in the 182 or more multi time?

If your seriously asking this question, I think you'll need more than multi or glass time to get a job anywhere...

 

[flyinlow67]

I remember Springfest! Wasn't quite as wild as Halloween, but still fun.

Back to the thread, you should get the multi time for sure. I was clawing for whatever multi time I could find, and then I happened on the freight job I have now. I have gotten about 400 multi hours in the last 7 months. That is kinda low for a night freight guy. I know guys who regularly max out thier time every month, so keep after it and good luck.