ALL ATPs?

[TheChief]

HOw much do they want for the comm/multi add on? I found a place that would do it for $1400 in a Seminole and was looking into it.

 

[Atccfi]

I personally trained at ATP and it is just like everyone is saying....a ratings mill.... If you are planning on doing the Career pilot Program, go in there knowing everything you need to for the written tests... You will not learn much while you are there. Figure you might have an instructor that flew a plane for the first time 5months before you sign up..... how much can you truly learn!?!?!?maybe I am just an idiot, but I did not learn much theoretical stucff there. I did learn however how to fly that plane extremely well. I will give them that...or maybe just my instructor. Learn your supplement inside and out and then do it again. The 40 questions on the last 2 pages of the book...be able to spit those answers out frokm route learning.... If you can get hired on as an instructor after you finish, it is a GREAT deal. You will be flying a jet within a year, probably less. PM me if you have any more questions.

 

[psysicx]

If there pilots are so bad wouldn't they wash out of airline training?

 

[wiggsfly]

Just about everyone where I work went there for their me add-on in the last year. The instructor I had was great and the planes were well taken care of (which is more than I can say for most places I looked at). I'll be going back for my MEI when I get the money.

 

[Greaseman]

Mudkow,

I was an instructor at the ATP base in PHX several years ago and taught the course that you are inquiring about. No question that upon arrival to ATP, goal one is for you to pass your checkride. It is nothing short of a rote-level exercise to for you to get the rating in question.

And you know what....it frickin' works! The success rate for the guys that I taught...including over 100 military candidates that were getting their ATP's was well in excess of 90%.

I won't argue with the notion that a sit-down with the local flight school might save you a few bucks, however I DO know that your goal of attaining that rating in the most expeditious manner, on time---on budget, is something that ATP can deliver.

As for the ATP pilots being "pretty bad as a rule"...every last guy, (ATP instructors) from that office went to a regional airline and have been highly successful.

PM me with any questions.

 

[sorenk]

Thanks for info. Wondering the average time it might take to get 300 mulit hours doing MEI if youre ft & devoted?

 

[logansun]

I was an instructor at the ATP base in PHX several years ago and taught the course that you are inquiring about.
As for the ATP pilots being "pretty bad as a rule"...every last guy, (ATP instructors) from that office went to a regional airline and have been highly successful.

I was wondering what the chances of instructing with ATP would be after going through their CPP? I have the inst. ticket. Would you recommend getting my COMM. locally then acquiring the CFI's with them? Are the chances of instructing the same?
Thanks, Logan

 

[Greaseman]

Logan,

The more time that you spend with them, (ATP) the better--ergo get your ratings with them. As far as the chances of instructing with them after your CPP, that was entirely a result of a guys/girls attitude during his/her training. You will make that impression early on in your training.

Best of luck.

 

[logansun]

Logan,

The more time that you spend with them, (ATP) the better--ergo get your ratings with them. As far as the chances of instructing with them after your CPP, that was entirely a result of a guys/girls attitude during his/her training. You will make that impression early on in your training.

Best of luck.

Thought I would pick your brain a minute. I have seen in threads that buying your time through an academy may not look good in an interview, have you ever been so called "blackballed" for this approach when applying for a job? When you finished ATP, did you feel the financial burden was worth it? Did they help you get a job?
I'm 32 now and I decided to start flying a couple years ago, I feel that where I'm going to school at has taken too much time. Did you experience this and then decide to go to ATP?
I'll keep the question to a minimum, thanks for your response in advance. Logan

 

[Greaseman]

Logan,

Start making COMMAND decisions NOW and absolutely forget about being "blackballed" by anyone. When you walk in to a prospective employer with a thousand hours of multi-time, (the average that ATP guys were leaving with several years ago), you will have their attention.

I too started relatively late in the game and heard all the smack about buying jobs, time etc. Forget it, anyone that has that kind of hard-on for how you built time isn't worth YOUR time. Don't worry, you will pay your dues regardless, just don't let anyone else act as your dues "banker".

It is precisely because other flight schools didn't share my sense of urgency that I'm recommending ATP.

Remember, the only reason that guys bite you in the a@s is that they're behind you.

Good luck.