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I’m planning on attending “All-ATPS” in Las Vegas for my CFI, CFII, & MEI soon. I’m wandering if anyone could give me some insight on the program, tips, thoughts, or concerns, are appreciated. One of my past CFI’s (now a FO for Sky west) recommended the program. I’ve got a CFI position waiting in Houston so I simply want to get done ASAP.

Regards,
TA
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I utilized that program back in 98 in PHX. You need to complete all your written tests and lesson plans prior to arriving. After that its pretty straight forward. I ended up instructing for them which was a worthwhile experience.

Good luck
 
Hello,
I went through the program in Jacksonville (Craig Field), and overall it was a very positive experience. As RJCap was saying you need to have your written(s) passed and complete a bank of questions that are included in a handout that is mailed after you enroll. They also include some "canned" lesson plans that cover the entire syllabus, but they are boilerplate for you to use in the development of your own lesson plans.
The first 3 days of the training program consists of a review of the FAR/AIM. We were fortunate in Florida to have a retired FAA inspector as our instructor, and the insight he gave us in interperting the subtle nuances of the regs was tremendous. Once this intense grond school was complete we all did our spin endorsement training in a C-172. That was fun, and a low-pressure evolution.
ATP is a very procedure oriented organization, and if you have a military or 121/135 experience it will make things easier to cope with. In particular, checklists are a biggie at ATP and so are standard call-outs. I think that it all made me into a better pilot than I was before I arrived and is paying dividends now in my career as an instructor.
Aircraft operated by ATP are all in pretty good condition considering that they are flown pretty hard. I saw their maintenance first-hand and it all looked like it was performed very professionally. No doubt after X number of Seminole operating hours with the Seminole the mechnanics know the airplanes extremely well. I had a couple of maintenance related delays, but never canx'd a flight for airplanes.
Study your ATP handouts, relax and try and enjoy it. Pressure packed two weeks, but a great sense of accomplishment when you are done.

Regards,

ex-Navy Rotorhead
 
I used them in 99 at the TTN base for my ATP right at 1500tt. I did the written ahead of time on my own (saved $$) just studied the PA-44 booklet they gave me before showing up (I was flying single and 2 pilot 135 at the time in a PA31). I got a very good instructor (who I still keep in touch with today) and we just stuck to the planned lessions and canned stuff. That made it about the easiest course I've ever been thru. (you'll be in there with a bunch of mil guys who are looking around with that "I'm in the civ flying world gaze") When it came time for the exam the examiner just stuck with the canned stuff and the checkride was what they had us fly in the training sessions. Overall I'd recommend them but with the following undrestanding:

1. get the written stuff done ahead of time and be prepared for the oral check in whatever your going for so all you have to do is go there and get the flying part down and brush up on oral stuff before the ride or you'll really be crammed.

2. Quality of instruction depends on the instrustor, alittle luck involved in gettin assigned the right guy and partner. The courses are short so you really can't go switching like you would at an FBO.

Shortly I'm goiing to use them again for my CFII and MEI as my CFI needs to be renewed this fall.
 
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LearLove,

Back in '99, I was one of those mil guys in TTN with the glazed over look!

Really, though, All ATP's did a great job getting a bonehead like me through the ATP, and the FE written. They have a very nice operation, and do a good job.
 
Thanks for the comments gentlemen; sounds like a good program, and what I’m looking for. I will be contacting them soon.

Fly safe,

TA:cool:
 

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