Alfred Kahn dead at 93 years of age

[slaquer5]

Oh yeah.....Sure!! Never hate on a person but whizzing on his grave may be in order.....

Empty the bus terminals and put em on SWA......Listen to yourself!!! A lot of good?.....Lost pensions, crap wages, furloughs, ********************bag startups.....all for Joe Average!!

Oh yeah....and the race to the bottom.....funny how SWA is now the turd on top!! SUPER!!!!

Seek help. You get more and more bitter ever day. Please take your meds bitter old man .

 

[Caveman]

Deregulation was 32 years ago. Unless you're over 50 you probably weren't even driving when this law was enacted and half the current regional pilots weren't even born yet. The oldest airline pilot still flying was only 30 at the time. That means all but a handful of current airline pilots entered the business AFTER deregulation. It was a game changer for the former generation of airline pilots, but it's just normal business for our generation and you knew, or should have known, what you were getting into. Stop lamenting the good old days when you didn't actually live it. It's ancient history. Move on already.

 

[Flopgut]

Why applaud this guy?! Why, instead of cheap air fares, was something like feeding the hungry or defeating cancer not pursued with the same enthusiasm?

 

[HalinTexas]

Be sure to tell all your friends to watch the next "Frontline" on PBS... get some more insight into the "benefits" of the deregulation act on 1978...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/flyingcheap/

This crash had no direct correlation to deregulation. Deregulation was not about safety or the stupidity of pilots. This crash was about incompetence, and unprofessionalism among several parties. Quit making excuses for them.

 

[HalinTexas]

Actually a Captain of a major back in the 60s made more than a starting quarterback w/ the NFL.

And the '60s era NFL quarterback probably didn't fly 1st class on his own dime.

There were no quick upgrades back then, either.

I submit that all professional athletes were then, and are now, overpaid. Pilots now are just suckers. We bought into the lies of the aviation schools and aviation press. Myself included.

 

[HalinTexas]

I disagree, perhaps 30% of us would not be airline pilots, but 100% of those that did would have better paying, more stable jobs without it.

Perhaps not. No guarantees.

There wouldn't be any 5 year upgrades. If you were lucky enough, or well connected enough, you might be able to get a job flying airplanes for a living.

The public most likely would not tolerate subsidizing an entire industry whose highest paid employees are paid more than the president, adjusted for inflation.

 

[HalinTexas]

An unintended consequence is the "mass transitization" of airline travel. It is a "bus in the sky." Worse, the public has a sense of entitlement in regards to air travel.

 

[HA25]

Why applaud this guy?! Why, instead of cheap air fares, was something like feeding the hungry or defeating cancer not pursued with the same enthusiasm?

VERY well said...

 

[tomgoodman]

Another subsidized industry

The public most likely would not tolerate subsidizing an entire industry whose highest paid employees are paid more than the president, adjusted for inflation.

Babe Ruth was once asked how he felt about being paid more than the President. The Bambino responded: "I had a better year than he did."

 

[gutshotdraw]

75% of us would not have airline jobs without deregulation. Certainly not as sweet as regulation. I think we deserve more for sure. But it is the definition of a Catch 22.

Exactamundo

 

[Bringupthebird]

Perhaps not. No guarantees.

There wouldn't be any 5 year upgrades. If you were lucky enough, or well connected enough, you might be able to get a job flying airplanes for a living.

Really? Ask one of the many pilots hired between 1960-1970. If there is a market for pilots, pilots will be hired.

 

[nimtz]

This crash had no direct correlation to deregulation. Deregulation was not about safety or the stupidity of pilots. This crash was about incompetence, and unprofessionalism among several parties. Quit making excuses for them.

Yeah how about this one?

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/af90/1.jpg

Anybody how to know a 'soft field' takeoff in a 737-200? Ah that's all right, jets are just "marginal costs with wings" as Prof Kahn once said...

 

[HalinTexas]

Yeah how about this one?

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/af90/1.jpg

Anybody how to know a 'soft field' takeoff in a 737-200? Ah that's all right, jets are just "marginal costs with wings" as Prof Kahn once said...

No, especially not that one. That was caused by idiot pilots.

 

[IBNAV8R]

The best thing about deregulation is it allowed everyone to fly.

The worst thing about it is it allowed everyone to fly.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Amen....

 

[Tweaker]

Hip Hip Hooray! Kahn Piss on you as you have done to my family for the entire deregulating period. Great day!

That. Everything needs to eat, even worms. Bon appeteit!

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Seek help. You get more and more bitter ever day. Please take your meds bitter old man .

Why slaquer?? Because I disagree with you and the author of the regulation that allowed your airline to exist? And your lack of pensions and work rules to put downward pressure on my wages and QOL over the years?? Are you defending that???

I'll bet you'll cheer the guy who tries to bring on cabotage.....c'mon of course you will......

 

[HA25]

the sad part with this, is the cat's out of the bag...

I can't get onto a light rail, a commuter bus, a train, or even a taxi cab with out it being either fully regulated, or fully government run... yet when I fly, it's a free for all, race to the bottom with a cost cutting fiesta! Oddly, airplanes cost a lot more to buy and operate than any of those other method of "public" transportation... doesn't make any sense.

 

[HalinTexas]

Really? Ask one of the many pilots hired between 1960-1970. If there is a market for pilots, pilots will be hired.

I will, if you look those that were hired between 1970 and 1990. I met a pilot who spent almost 10 years riding sideways at a major. He wasn't the only one. It's an 18+ yr. upgrade at AMR right now.

Pilots that are willing to work under the offered conditions will be hired.