Alaska Schedules

[ImbracableCrunk]

What are junior lines like at Alaska?

How are reserves? Contact period changes?

What are common trips like?

I'm a regional pilot, so I'm not sure what to do unless I'm doing 6+ legs a day.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Nada? Nichevo? The big ol' zilcho?

 

[noperf]

OK
I'll try again. Reserve goes junior. Eleven days off per month. Two hour and four hour call out. Four hour call out can be changed to two hour call out at company discretion. Most people on Reserve will tell you that you can almost count on that happening everyday. There are Captains who have been on reserve for more than 5 years. Working everyday of reserve without breaking guarantee is possible. You will get frequent ACARS messages to call crew scheduling on arrival. You will have to be contactable at all times in your Zone. Just in case you don't get the ACARS message the Gate Agents will pass the message on to you at arrival. You can be used as a seat sub for simulator training.

No minimum days off for a line holder. Daily schedule can be built to 12 1/2 hours. Lots of Mexico turns out of LAX. Lots of ANC all nighters available in SEA. ORD all nighters out of ANC.

Average time away from base in Seattle per month is 240 hours.
Contract became ammendable on May 1, 2007. I think some guys have just learned that ASA is into the fifth year of "negotiations".

It rains 200 or so inches per year in KTN. It's night for about three months per year in BRW.

The Company has toyed with eliminating auto-land capability on next-gens and using only HUD for low CAT III's. All C and D checks by out sourced MX. Line mechanics do not do through flight walk arounds. They do one daily check per day which can be completed in about 40 minutes.

If anyone would like to correct any of this I'll take the criticism gladly.

 

[Mamma]

Noperf is pretty spot on with what he said. Keep in mind though, we are going through negotiations and things should get better. At least I hope so.

 

[SIR MILO]

keep hoping, it's all you got. Management has always won in the past and they will in the future. YOU WORK FOR THE AIR GROUP, DON'T FORGET IT.

 

[noperf]

The conventional wisdom prior to the Kasher decision was a 15% pay cut.

Alaska Air Group has negotiated dozens of contracts with the IAM/COPS, AMFA, AFA, and Teamsters.

Alaska 2010 is a very modest proposal at best.

All the chest pounding in the crew room will not change the current narrow body pay rates at the legacy carriers.

 

[tico]

The conventional wisdom prior to the Kasher decision was a 15% pay cut.

Alaska Air Group has negotiated dozens of contracts with the IAM/COPS, AMFA, AFA, and Teamsters.

Alaska 2010 is a very modest proposal at best.

All the chest pounding in the crew room will not change the current narrow body pay rates at the legacy carriers.

Who gives a rats azz about what their pay rates are....they are all bankrupt and that is how they got those pay rates.......we are not...so we are negotiating pay rated based on profitable, responsible carriers......And historically we pay by seniority not by aircraft size.....so what does a 25 year "legacy" captain hold...probably a triple seven....that is how our pay rates have been determined.....but you are right...it wont matter and we wont prevail. Which makes all of the the "post kasher pilots" all the more confusing.........

 

[noperf]

tico,

None of the Legacy carriers are currently bankrupt.

You are incorrect regarding how Alaska pilot pay rates have been determined in the past. The MEC office has copies of all past contracts.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

That bit about sitting in as a sim partner being a "jeopardy event" seems questionable. Any pointers for proof? Or is this just an old wives tale?

 

[noperf]

The proof is in the fact that the MEC and the Company came up with written guidelines regarding this.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

And what do the guidelines say? I'm just surprised that some check airman would try to unsat a pilot who is not even being checked. . . . Any background, noperf? Was it a blatant slacker who needed a kick, or is it several reserves who've gotten dinged?

Thanks

 

[tico]

tico,

None of the Legacy carriers are currently bankrupt.

You are incorrect regarding how Alaska pilot pay rates have been determined in the past. The MEC office has copies of all past contracts.

In the end we are paid by years of service not equipment type.....That is how the Alaska Air Group wants it.....Which is why equipment size is only on part of our pay rate formula puzzle..... And yes they were banckrupt or heading there when they extracted pay concessions from there employee groups and those bankruptcy driven pay scale are what we are up against.....So what is the ups pay scale for a 20 year narrow body captain or a fed ex 20 year narrow body captain or a southwest 20 year narrow body captain....all profitable airlines with much money in the bank and we are and have been during my 7 1/2 years with Alaska a profitable airline with much money in the bank...so what gives.....

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

OK I'll try again.

See, when I 'rignally asked this question, I was wondering about the pairings. I'm familiar with 5+ legs, 10-14 hours in a (not-) Comfort-Inn rinse and repeat.

Are the long vectors (eg. MIA) typically followed by min rest, or 20 hours, or what?

So what I'm saying is - Do I get to stroll on the beach in Hawaii, or do I hafta hurry to the hotel and get some sleep?

 

[SRMairlines]

MIA is a 24hr. deal. You get in early in the morning and wait for the next flight the next morning.

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