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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002278736_alaska18.html

Alaska Air workers fuming

By Melissa Allison
Seattle Times business reporter

Dozens of union members and supporters stood outside the Museum of Flight yesterday afternoon, carrying signs denouncing Alaska Airlines management for recent job losses and pay cuts.

Inside the museum, Alaska Air Group CEO Bill Ayer oversaw a nearly two-hour annual shareholders meeting that included much of the same, without the signs. At times workers who stepped up to address the executives on stage became emotional while describing their unhappiness with the airline.

Alaska Capt. Edward J. Wilson, who has worked for the airline 23 years, told Ayer it was the first annual meeting he has attended where security guards waved a wand over him before he entered.

"I'm glad you have so many security people here, because I believe a crime has been committed," Wilson said, receiving a standing ovation from about a third of the people packed into the museum's theater.

He was among many workers, including a newly out-of-work baggage handler, who attended the meeting and expressed dismay at the company's recent cost-cutting moves. Last week, 472 baggage handlers were laid off at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, and earlier this month pilots took an average 26 percent pay cut after an arbitrator's decision.

Wilson asked Ayer to say what he plans to do about the "Alaska spirit."

"I still have it inside of me, but it's dimmer than it was a few days ago," Wilson said.

Ayer answered that no one should be surprised that morale is low, given the recent changes. "Yeah, it's **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** painful, and I wish it were different," he said.

Returning the carrier to profitability will bring job security and the opportunity to grow, he added.

Reaching market levels
Asked why management didn't take pay cuts commensurate with those demanded from some workers, Ayer replied that management pay is fair based on what the industry pays. Ayer's salary and bonus in 2004 totaled $479,311, down 1 percent from 2003.

The company needs to save about $340 million a year, a third of it coming from reductions in labor expenses.

That is expected to bring Alaska's cost per available seat mile down to 7.25 cents, from last year's 7.92 cents. The figures exclude the cost of fuel.

The airline might have to lower its target below 7.25 cents if fuel or competitive pressures continue to hurt profits, but it would not go back to workers for additional concessions after bringing their compensation down to market levels, Ayer said in an interview before the annual meeting.

Earlene Shaw, whose husband, Donald, died in the 2000 crash of Alaska Flight 261, said during the meeting that she worries about safety at the airline, given the cost cuts it is making.

Ayer answered that nothing is more important to the airline than safety. Executive Vice President of Operations George Bagley added that, even if Alaska got into worse financial straits, "the last flight we fly will be as safe as any flight we've flown."

Mark Walker, one of 472 baggage handlers let go by Alaska on Friday, said he considers the replacement of those workers with employees from Menzies Aviation "destructive and short-sighted."

Walker, 37, had worked 15 years for the airline and lost a job that paid $20.80 an hour, he said after the meeting. "My first option is to try to exercise my seniority into an air-freight position in Seattle," he said. If that doesn't work, he might look into retraining programs.

"Hopefully I could go into a field where I'm not at risk five years down the road," Walker said.

Alaska flight attendant Kelle Wells, who is also president of the Seattle local council of the Association of Flight Attendants, also voiced disapproval of management at the meeting.

She said in a separate interview that talks between the airline and her union have run into trouble. Two of three mediation dates this year were canceled by the mediator at the request of the airline, Wells said.
 
Interesting that the bag handler mentioned had a $40k+/yr job, assuming a 2000hr work year (50 40hr weeks) and no overtime...

Do I understand they canned all their baggage handlers and hired an outside firm to do the work?
 
I was on the ground in GEG Sat. night waiting to cross 7/25 to taxi to the gate and an Alaska 737 came in and landed and stopped on a dime to make a the first taxi-way to the gate. As they were turning off a voice comes over the radio stating,"Our landing roll decreases with our pay!". Ouch! Not happy times in Seattle these days.
 
Heh....I've heard a few "26% slower taxi" comments on the freq in SEA...the captain I was flying with yesterday mentioned that when he was in SEA earlier that day, the Menzies rampers pushed an Alaska MD80 onto bravo taxiway & almost put them in the grass...to which the Alaska pilot growled on frequency, "you get what you pay for..."

Anybody who was at the stockholder meeting have any firsthand reports? John Kangas was holding court in the PDX crew room (QX) yesterday & said it was pretty raucous.
 
I only know from what I read on the ALPA board. I've been off for two weeks and fly again on Saturday. I saw the seattle papers write ups and pictures of people picketing outside. I don't know if it will do any good but maybe Ayer and the other criminals will get the idea.

I also get the feeling that it's only going to get worse and despite managements "Safety & Compliance" BS, safety is definatly compromised. MD-80's don't fly well with an aft CG way out of limits.

My roomate in SEA told me on the phone that an MD was delayed because a ramper was playing drums with his wands on the leading edge. Any Alaska guys confirm this?
 
AKMD80GUY said:
I only know from what I read on the ALPA board. I've been off for two weeks and fly again on Saturday. I saw the seattle papers write ups and pictures of people picketing outside. I don't know if it will do any good but maybe Ayer and the other criminals will get the idea.

I also get the feeling that it's only going to get worse and despite managements "Safety & Compliance" BS, safety is definatly compromised. MD-80's don't fly well with an aft CG way out of limits.

My roomate in SEA told me on the phone that an MD was delayed because a ramper was playing drums with his wands on the leading edge. Any Alaska guys confirm this?

I see airline management and/or their actions called "criminal" with some degree of frequency. For this example, can you cite the statute(s) violated to warrant the claim?

Thank You.
 
I agree. If you are sure that your management is engaged in "criminal" activity, you have a duty to yourself, your co-workers, your customers and the public in general to report this activity to the proper authorities and to remove yourself from their employ.

Otherwise, it gives the impression of just another blow-hard crying wolf, which ultimately makes it harder for anything constructive to be done to help improve the situation.
 
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Traderd said:
I see airline management and/or their actions called "criminal" with some degree of frequency. For this example, can you cite the statute(s) violated to warrant the claim?

Thank You.

Looking for some insider trading info?
 
Yank McCobb said:
I agree. If you are sure that your management is engaged in "criminal" activity, you have a duty to yourself, your co-workers, your customers and the public in general to report this activity to the proper authorities and to remove yourself from their employ.

Otherwise, it gives the impression of just another blow-hard crying wolf, which ultimately makes it harder for anything constructive to be done to help improve the situation.

You are still here, I thought you retired.
 
I believe the word "Criminal" and it's use on this board are figures of speech with regard to managements recent financial windfall at the great expense of its employees. I would prefer to use other words but I think the moderator would have a problem with that. I feel (personally) that I have had money stolen (figuratively) from me by the company AND arbitrator. There was no reason for the company to get what they got. If that's the case then why did ALPA file a lawsuit against Alaska Airlines and Richard Kasher. I can only ASSUME that something CRIMINAL took place. Does that clear things up a bit?
 
mach none said:
Looking for some insider trading info?

Always. Of course by the time info makes it to a public forum, action has been takes and you look a for bounce or retrace.

I do understand these terms are more often than not figures of speech but I still find them disappointing for one reason. Reading the variuos tirades posted on this forum disappoints me because I have been a pilot for so many years and still fly my own aircraft for personal and business travel. So I hate to see aviators presenting themselves and their positions so poorly. I know this is just an anonymous message board but it would be nice to see positions better articulated concerning the plight of the professional aviator. It would seem you guys are facing real problems with your profession and could do without the hyperbole and exaggerations.
 

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