Al Franken Wants Computers Out Of The Cockpit

[viking737]

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[Dornier 335]

Glass, GOVt RUN ANYTHING NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER WORKS WELL!!

Social Security
Medicaid
Medicare
IRS
Post Office

You forgot an important three-letter word: FAA (or ATC)

 

[av8trinabarrel]

How in the hell is calling a guy a midget right up there with racial profiling??? That's ridiculous! I see no slander in the word midget.

He is a mental midget..Now it's slander. Pi%$ off AL!!!

 

[richav8ter]

You mean this guy

 

[bizjet800]

How in the hell is calling a guy a midget right up there with racial profiling??? That's ridiculous! I see no slander in the word midget.

I think what he meant to say is that it was right DOWN there with racial profiling!

 

[bizjet800]

I think I agree with what you are saying about healthcare. My opinion is [I realize nobody asked for it but here it is] that as long as the trial lawyers own the Democrat party, and the insurance companies own the Republican party, we won't get any meaningful health insurance reform.

I do think that things have changed under Obama, though, and not for the better. Look at our debt as a % of GDP: Obama has managed to up the ante thrown down by the fiscally reckless GWB. Can't believe I'm saying this, but I think Clinton [1994-2000] has been our best President since Reagan. And Al Franken should be a poster child for a movement to repeal the 17th amendment.

Clinton gets a lot of credit for what the Republicans helped with: any one remember the Contract with America? (before you get on your high horse, I can't stand either party today) This "contract" was the the GOPs response to losing some 20% of the vote to Ross Perot--resulting in an improved economy.

Yes we had balanced budgets and the economy improved under Clinton, but he doesn't deserve ALL the credit. Any one have the Roth IRA? Millions cashed in their traditional IRAs in the 90s and generated untold billions in taxes. Also, in the 90s we had an anomoly where we had few retirements and crime was at historical lows.

 

[glasspilot]

Glass, GOVt RUN ANYTHING NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER WORKS WELL!!

So....you don't support our troops?


See, now I disagree. I think we have a wonderful Military and fully support them. It's a shame you can't find a way to get behind the men and women who make the ultimate sacrifice for your freedom and liberty.

I guess that is why I am a better American than you.

 

[Dan Roman]

So....you don't support our troops?


See, now I disagree. I think we have a wonderful Military and fully support them. It's a shame you can't find a way to get behind the men and women who make the ultimate sacrifice for your freedom and liberty.

I guess that is why I am a better American than you.

You are correct of course. you could also make a case that many of the right wing Obama bashers are anti American.
The simple fact is we are a democracy, the majority of Americans voted for Obama. It's one thing to offer a different point of view, but the whole "birthers" deal, the "he's a Muslim", "he's a socialist", and numerous other crap being spread by SOME on the right is more interested in Obama failing than the well being of our country.
I don't know if he is going to prove any good or not and nobody else on here does either, but there is a significant percentage of Americans that will say anything about him with little regard for the truth, just to try and attack the President of the United States.

 

[JFReservist]

Don't be stupid...

So....you don't support our troops?


See, now I disagree. I think we have a wonderful Military and fully support them. It's a shame you can't find a way to get behind the men and women who make the ultimate sacrifice for your freedom and liberty.

I guess that is why I am a better American than you.

??? You serious???

So far we have enjoyed a nice little debate, but don't be an idiot. I know that you must have made a mistake... surely YOU are out there at the USO, donating your time. Surely you have given generously to the wounded warrior foundation - or like. Surely you have bought a couple of soldiers a cup of coffee or lunch at your local terminal?

So, I know I made a mistake...

Maybe you haven't done any of those things... instead you served with your brothers and sisters in arms and counted that as enough sacrifice and support to be a better American? Or have lost loved ones and dear friends in the line of duty and that makes you a better American?

Or spent countless birthdays, anniversaries and holidays - not in service of your airline - but of your country in some God awful place away from family and the comforts of home? I'm sure it was you who was generous enough to buy countless meals and drinks for some of your young enlisted aircrew members because they were barely making minimum wage.

Maybe it was someone like you that was praying for someone like me while they were alone on watch during the small hours of the night. Maybe it was you who sacrificed their comfortable life and cushy internship at college to make 27 cents underway... and count it an honor to serve their country and defend her freedom.

Perhaps you are the product of someone who gave the ultimate sacrifice to defend his family's, or friends', or countrymen's liberty. Perhaps one of your loved ones is a star on a wall, or name in a book; giving no comfort or peace as you grow up... Or maybe its the realization that they loved you and their family, and their friends, and their neighbors more than themselves. Perhaps you count that as a your greatest gift, that their commitment to a sacred honor, duty, and sacrifice should guide your every thought, drive and ambition.

Perhaps you were in the squadron/unit whose motto was "so others may live."

Perhaps you don't consider yourself better than others because you have served, or lost, or given... you just knew it was your responsibility to support and defend... you knew it was the right thing to do.

I'm sure you find it hard to talk about sometimes, precisely because you don't want to be perceived as better, or different somehow... instead, it catches up with you - not the honor or greatness of your glory - but the thoughts that you could have done more... should have done more for your mates, your brothers and sisters in arms... you could do more to honor their sacrifice.

Or maybe you are a better American than most of us because you think its anathema to take away another's Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness... after all you have given to defend it.

 

[rigger]

You are correct of course. you could also make a case that many of the right wing Obama bashers are anti American.
The simple fact is we are a democracy, the majority of Americans voted for Obama. It's one thing to offer a different point of view, but the whole "birthers" deal, the "he's a Muslim", "he's a socialist", and numerous other crap being spread by SOME on the right is more interested in Obama failing than the well being of our country.
I don't know if he is going to prove any good or not and nobody else on here does either, but there is a significant percentage of Americans that will say anything about him with little regard for the truth, just to try and attack the President of the United States.

God where to start with you both.....This is tru GOVERNMENT education at work here!!! 1st WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE A REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is a huuuuuuuuuge difference please look it up.

You are correct he is OUR president and thank god he and the congress have not yet destroyed our RIGHT under the constitution to disagree and challenge his and their thoughts and more importantly deeds!!!! I will not re hash the birther thing it's been covered and who really gives a darn. As for being a socialist or communist accusation there really is no debate to as to his affiliations. These are quotes from him

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

There are many many many more but you get the idea. He has surrounded himself with true radicles, leftists, socialists, and communists. again I don't have the energy to go through the list you can find them (if you are interested in educating yourself enough too) Again I am not attacking just pointing out FACTS said by him or folks from around him. As far as wanting him to FAIL!!!!!!!!! HELL YES HE SHOULD FAIL!!!!!!!! he and the congress are trying to undo the constitution of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA just as much as I wanted BUSH and the CONGRESS to fail also.....I want the govt the heck out of my and your life!!!!!!! I want the debt to go away for my kids to have a good life!!!!! I want EVERYONE to be responsible for themselves , and if they cant then THEY SHOULD FAIL!!!!!! As far as the troops....well thats a rediculous assertion because I said the GOVT cant do anything well it means I dont support the troops......

I am sorry but I DO SUPPORT the TROOPS ......TO WIN!!!!! NOT PLAY THE GAMES OUR GOVT IS PUTTING them THROUGH!!!! If you let the generals on the ground (they are not political and protected like the FAA or the post office workers or any of the others who don't have to perform or pay a price if they don't perform) OUR military is willing and able to go out and do what they have to do to win....they are the epitome of true CAPITALIST organization! They have to perform all the time under terrible conditions. They are underfunded, understaffed and underappreciated. They are always under assault from the politicians but yet if left alone they will do the job!!! and they are doing it for something way more important then dollars! The are doing it for Freedom!!!! Thats why I don't consider them the "govt" because at the end of the day they are but one of the FEW that won't play games if left to themselves when not left to themselves (like now with political hacks running the show causing them to be put more into harms way) then they sit and spin just like the rest of America!

Look it's really simple, you both like govt and believe that govt should run/control parts of your and my lives!!!! I on the other hand believe the govt should be out and stay out of any part of my life except what they were made for to protect ....OUR LAWS!!!!!!! OUR NATIONAL SAFETY!!!!, and OUR Sovereignty!!!!! They are failing miserably on more then one of these accounts.....to quote a favorite of mine

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."

Govt is the problem not the solution!!!! IF you want more govt, there are many countries that have tried it and they all are not near as good and successful as the USA why do you want to change what MADE US GREAT??? I think it must be the crappy GOVT run education...... but heck i'm almost and anarchist FREEDOM IS MY RIGHT DONT MESS WITH IT!!!!!

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!!!!!