Airtran Questions

[jascl65]

Just a couple quick questions about Airtran.
1. Current upgrade time
2. First and second year pay
3. How long on reserve
4. Commutable trips?
5. New hires into the 717 or 737 when it comes online

Thanks in advance for any replies.

JAS

 

[Ty Webb]

Originally posted by jascl65
Just a couple quick questions about Airtran.
1. Current upgrade time?

The last award had some guys who were right at 24 months, but the award was rescinded due to delivery delays from Boeing. Probably 2 years, for the next class of newhires, but it could be quite a bit less, like 18 months when the 737's start showing up.


2. First and second year pay

First year- I would guess right around $40K for pay plus $5K per diem. Second year looks like $57K plus the per diem. Third year FO pay should be $65, but 3rd year Capt pay now is around $110K. . . . . . . . 13% more for the B737-800's, but we are likely to see mostly -700's at first, which are the smae pay as the 717.

3. How long on reserve?

Depends on how many are hired after you. Some sit no reserve, while others sit 6 months. It all depends how long it takes to get 10% behind you (currently,you would need about 45 pilots behind you to get off reserve, I would guess).

4. Commutable trips?

Not enough info to answer. Most trips are 3 or four days on, three or four days off. Some are late start/early finish, if that is what you mean, but more are either late start/late finish, or early start/ early finish, so you might have to commute in the night before, or get home the next morning. So far, I have managed to commute, never had a crash pad, averaged 2-4 hotels nights in ATL per month for the first year, and 0-2 a month in the second year. Figure 13-15 days off per month the first year, and 16 -17 in the second year.


5. New hires into the 717 or 737 when it comes online?

I don't think anyone knows for sure.



Thanks in advance for any replies.

JAS

 

[Bluewanabe]

TY,

What are the avg. times for an interview? The web site listed 2500tt, 1000me, and 500pic121. Is this realistic?
How many apps?
How many 737-800's on order?

Thanks for your help and insight.

 

[jascl65]

Ty, thank you very much for your quick and detailed answers, its much appreciated. Blue, you wouldnt happen to fly out of Cincy would you?

JAS

 

[AA717driver]

Bluewannabe--I think you have to change your screen name before you go sniffing around AirTran... TC

 

[Bluewanabe]

jascl65,
Yep. Why?


AA717,
Sure. Anything to get out of this CMRvsDALvsCHQvsASAvsACAvs-everyone caca.
have you seen some of the other posts?
SHEEESH MOMMY!

 

[jascl65]

Blue,I was just curious, seems we work for the same company.

Couple more quesitons for you Ty if your up for it.
1. Hows the overall relationship between management and the pilot group?
2. Looks like your current contract becomes ammendable in April of 04, is this correct and if so any rumors about the next contract?

Thanks again!

JAS

 

[atldc9]

The current contract becomes ammendable April 2005. Everyone expects to open negotiaitons before that, probably Dec 04. Our pay rates actually become amendable in Dec 04.

As to mgmt v. labor, we all have the same goals, make money, keep the company strong. Does that mean we don't want to share the wealth the company is making? Obviously not. It alos means we don't want to ring the golden goose's proverbial neck so that it spits out every golden egg its got. The current relationship is fairly balanced. Sometimes good, sometimes WTFO. The pay is livable, the company is growing, and the bennies could use some tweaking. All in all a good place. The next contract will not be anywhere near conscionairy, barring something strange happening.