Airnet training contract

[Smash312]

Anyone know if airnets training contract is strictly enforced? I've been told by various people that training contracts don't really hold up in the courts of law. Anyone have any information on any of this?

Thanks.

 

[flybymidmorning]

It's very difficult to enforce, (time and money), but they can definately inform any future employers about your lack of commitment.

 

[flyin4pennies]

Hey do us Airnet Guys a Favor

Anyone know if airnets training contract is strictly enforced? I've been told by various people that training contracts don't really hold up in the courts of law. Anyone have any information on any of this?

Thanks.

If you don't intend to do the honorable thing and stay a year, than stay away!!!

Don't eat into our companies time and money because you want to get some time to apply to, and become another $19 an hour regional whore or where ever you plan to go!!!


Why don't you change your post to "I Plan to scam Airnet if I get hired"

This site has eyes and ears and some of us have the ear of Washka

 

[starchkr]

Well said!!!!

They are VERY hard to enforce, and usually people get away without having to pay anything..many did it during my tenure there and not a single person was forced to pay (that i know of).

But please, don't waste another pilots position if you are not going to stay for your commitment...there are many others out there who will stay the year and longer, but maybe you got a spot that they could have had. Also, if they do not enforce the contract i would hope that they DO tell your future employers about your lack of sincerity and commitment...that might just prevent you from getting that next job, so think about it before you do it.

 

[MrPink1911]

I think people forget that it feels good to do the "right" thing even when you might not have to...... All you have is your word...... and a year is not too much to ask...... If that's too long for you then go to RAM Air Freight, last I checked they don't have a training contract, but I heard that may change soon, or Central Air Southwest is 6 months long..... I chose AIrNet and if you came to check the place out you would know why. These people put a lot of effort into training their new folks properly so don't come here planning to be one of "those" guys..... Thanks

 

[OUPilot]

Don't even waste the company's time. I wouldn't want to fly next to a quitter. Go instruct for a little longer to get your regional job. Besides, aviation is a small community. I am sure that if you quit b4 your year is up, the companies you will apply to will find out. Just my 2 cents.

 

[rubicon789]

Stay away please. And yes your future employers will more than likely know of your lack of commitment. Airnet is a great company to work for so the least you can do is give your year. Go fly for some fly by night operation, please.

 

[Smash312]

Before you get all defensive, the reason I asked was that this was the topic yesterday in the flight instructors lounge. I'm all for company loyalty, but wanted to confirm what I was hearing. So please - do yourself a favour stop being a prick and accusing me of 'scamming' companies. It's pricks like you that make this board a hostile place. A question is what I asked and a staight forward answer is all I wanted - not a 'lecture' from you - so save it. PRICK!

Just wanted to edit that last post for the people not answering me in such a hostile way. All advice is appreciated from you guys. Thanks.

 

[osu_av8r]

That is the worst question I've seen. It's not about whether the agreement is enforced or not, it's about your word and honor. I can't imagine why anyone would want to leave before a year anyway. They have treated me so well and given me so much. Most interested people ask questions like what type of aircraft they operate, or what kind of bases they have, but not whether the training AGREEMENT is enforced. Hey, why don't you save that question for the phone interview. If that's on the top of your list of questions, then I'd suggest looking elsewhere. You would only dilute the quality of the company. The reason you are getting hostile responses is due to the nature of your question. That's not the type of question that a professional pilot would ask.

 

[starchkr]

Before you get all defensive, the reason I asked was that this was the topic yesterday in the flight instructors lounge. I'm all for company loyalty, but wanted to confirm what I was hearing. So please - do yourself a favour stop being a prick and accusing me of 'scamming' companies. It's pricks like you that make this board a hostile place. A question is what I asked and a staight forward answer is all I wanted - not a 'lecture' from you - so save it. PRICK!

Just wanted to edit that last post for the people not answering me in such a hostile way. All advice is appreciated from you guys. Thanks.

Smash...look, if you really wanted just an answer to a question to inform your "fellow instructors" then you should have posed the question as such. Instead you come across as a low timer looking to build your time and move on before you even put in a year. Maybe something like "Hey guys, my instructor buds say that you can break the contract, but i feel you can't, can someone please help me prove them wrong?" See, now that would have been received better, and you probably would not have been given those answers. Now if you are one of the guys who thinks you can, then all the above whiping posts refer to you (hopefully that is not true!).

Also, who are you referring to as a Prick? There are many who are giving negative answers, including myself, and yet you use the term in the singular tense? Very confused here...

 

[Smash312]

Listen, I apologise for using using the term 'prick' generally - I was aiming that to 'flying4pennies'. Maybe I should have asked the question in a different way, but I am a little fed up of asking (or looking at people asking questions) and fellow users taking a stab at them. I didn't think anyone else was condescending or particularly hostile towards me. All other replies were happily taken on board. Maybe I should have just asked if training contracts in general hold up, but as Airnet was the company in question yesterday, I thought I'd just ask it as such. I'm just a little fed up of people using such high and mighty attitude towards others on here.

 

[MrPink1911]

Hopefully it show you what a quality company AirNet is when the pilot group has such a vociferously negative reaction to the thought of someone coming in here and breaking the year agreement.... food for thought!!!

 

[100fly]

I actually liked having the 1year contract. It gave me a chance to sit back and make an imformative decision about the rest of my aviation career in stead of settling for the first regional that would hire me. The pay is good for a first year freight pilot, and you get the opportunity to get the best possible experience as a pilot while building a lot of multi pic time. After my year was up I found myself in the right seat of one of our lears and I am looking forward to being typed in it in a couple of months. After a year here you will be in a jet either here or at a regional of your choice, it's worth the wait.

 

[flyin4pennies]

Listen, I apologise for using using the term 'prick' generally - I was aiming that to 'flying4pennies'. Maybe I should have asked the question in a different way, but I am a little fed up of asking (or looking at people asking questions) and fellow users taking a stab at them. I didn't think anyone else was condescending or particularly hostile towards me. All other replies were happily taken on board. Maybe I should have just asked if training contracts in general hold up, but as Airnet was the company in question yesterday, I thought I'd just ask it as such. I'm just a little fed up of people using such high and mighty attitude towards others on here.

Listen, I'm getting up a 4 am to drive to 2 hours to Philly so I can catch a $300 dollar cheaper flight to get my airplane from the west coast. I don't have to do this. I could make the company fly me from my local airport, but I don't because times are tight and every dollar counts.

I've been through an airline bankruptcy and closure in the last past year and I don't like to see people abusing the system, because we all have to pay for it in the end. So if what your telling us IS true than I'm sorry. Go back to you Buds and tell them what you want but let them know if they intend to come to Airnet and leave before a year, if their caught, there could be blanket party in their future!!

 

[Princedietrich]

While I do agree with my colleagues, I would also like to add one thing.

The recruiters at Airnet do read this board, very regularly I might add. That's all I'm gonna say about that.

 

[CrewDawg]

Not to hi-jack the thread but I have a question about the contract. I have been selected to go to training with an Air National Guard unit. But I am waiting (currently flight instructing) on my medical to clear which could take who knows how long. So here I am waiting for something that may never happen. I do not want to waste time sitting around waiting to for my medical, when I could be gaining some valuable experience. If I were to apply there, would this be something that would hinder me in getting and interview. Then if I were fortunate enough to get an interview, I would be inclined to let them know about my guard slot, would this also hinder my keep me from getting hired?

* Disclaimer - I do not consider flight instructing, "a waste of time." I am enjoying flight instruction, but would like to move on and get some great experience that flying for AirNet provides.

 

[Onlyflyfreight]

Not to hi-jack the thread but I have a question about the contract. I have been selected to go to training with an Air National Guard unit. But I am waiting (currently flight instructing) on my medical to clear which could take who knows how long. So here I am waiting for something that may never happen. I do not want to waste time sitting around waiting to for my medical, when I could be gaining some valuable experience. If I were to apply there, would this be something that would hinder me in getting and interview. Then if I were fortunate enough to get an interview, I would be inclined to let them know about my guard slot, would this also hinder my keep me from getting hired?

* Disclaimer - I do not consider flight instructing, "a waste of time." I am enjoying flight instruction, but would like to move on and get some great experience that flying for AirNet provides.

As long as you are upfront with your situation I don't see a problem on your part. However I'm not sure how "desirable" you would be for employment unless you can commit to the training contract. I do think that after a year they would happily let you go and let you keep your seniority number when/if you return.

Your best bet is to call the recruitment department and just ask!

Listen, I apologise for using using the term 'prick' generally - I was aiming that to 'flying4pennies'. Maybe I should have asked the question in a different way, but I am a little fed up of asking (or looking at people asking questions) and fellow users taking a stab at them. I didn't think anyone else was condescending or particularly hostile towards me. All other replies were happily taken on board. Maybe I should have just asked if training contracts in general hold up, but as Airnet was the company in question yesterday, I thought I'd just ask it as such. I'm just a little fed up of people using such high and mighty attitude towards others on here.

Listen your not going to hell for asking questions, but if you don't put some thought into how form your questions, you better have thick skin. Besides the minute you start using words like "prick" I think you lost most discussions.

In any event I'll have to second the opinion of most of my colleagues on the training contract. Go somewhere else if you don't intend on honoring it!

 

[rubicon789]

PRICK!

I've been called worse. As 100fly said, AirNet is a great place to work, yea business is changing, and yea our CEO needs some help. But all in all, it's a great place to work if you can hang with the schedule.

Think of it like this because what goes around comes around.
Put yourself in the position of Boss/CEO whatever, when it comes to the training contract. What would you do if your employee's eat up your $$$'s all the time while in training, then worked a few months, then left your company for somewhere else. After the first few you would start getting pretty worried and lose trust in your staff. Yes, people break there contract, but as someone else said before aviation is a very small community. Forget the legal things, people talk and recruiters are friends with each other so word travels....

 

[Princedietrich]

The CEO doesn't need help. He needs a .44 caliber bullet to the brainstem.

 

[ComputerGuy]

IMHO, there's a world of difference between someone who has to break the training contract because of a National Guard commitment that he was up front with Airnet about prior to being hired (unit gets deployed two months after starting at Airnet for example) and joining Airnet with the INTENTION of breaking the training contract if "something better" should come along....

 

[Guillotine007]

no offense...but if you have 400TT (per your profile) it won't really matter.

 

[CrewDawg]

no offense...but if you have 400TT (per your profile) it won't really matter.

Nah, I just haven't updated that in a while. Thanks for the replies.

 

[starcheck208]

whether you break a contract or not, how would it look to future employers if you leave a place after a few months. Military leave is a different story of course.

 

[flyin4pennies]

whether you break a contract or not, how would it look to future employers if you leave a place after a few months. Military leave is a different story of course.

I'm willing to bet that most recruiters know that Airnet has a training agreement and if you show up on their doorstep with only 4-5-6 months in, their most likely gonna question this

 

[Photoflight]

I know Airnet is not like this but breaking a training contract is perfectly acceptable, to me, if the place is trying to get you to do dangerous/illegal things. However going in with the intention of not sticking out the commitment is shady at best.