Airnet Question

[Princedietrich]

Jetride was sold for $41M. Got Airnet outta a majority of their debt. Stock prices went up.

Did the finalization go through? Last I'd heard there was a delay in the final signing of the agreement.

And Sarge, I used to be around Cbus all the time but not anymore. The red headed ACP took some offense to that wedgie I gave him in dispatch one morning during city meet and had me escorted out of the building.

 

[MNR]

There was a hang up with one of the bank doing the financeing. Apparently Tuesday the 26th is the day.

 

[USC328]

really? was there an incident they didnt tell us about in training?

Yep, they lost a Learjet N800AW in a crash in New York. UCA I believe. It was a 200ft overcast. Apparently, from what I've heard, they were unstabalized when they broke out. They attempted a go around. Engines didn't spool up in time (typical jet engines) and they impacted the runway pretty hard, and slid off into a snow bank. Both pilots were okay. The aircraft was totalled. Please correct any details that I may have gotten wrong. I believe it happened between Dec 2003 and July 2005. (my tenure at AirNet). If not, it was when I was a ramper for AirNet Jan 2001- Dec 2003. I don't know the exact dates. NTSB should have the reports.

Another incident was due to hail damage at cruise altitude. That same Learjet was involved in the MDW incident where the wing was bent 45 degrees up on landing due to a wingtip strike. Not sure of the dates on that either. However, MDW accident may not have been wx related, but I believe the PF (copilot) mentioned he encountered a gust of wind or something causing the last second strike on the landing flare. I've spoken to both the Captain and copilot of that flight and I'm just glad they were safe.

 

[Flysher]

ah alright, i beleive i know about the first incident, and from waht they told us during training is that the lear came in wayyy to fast ( and yes the weather was really low) and went off the runway and took out several airplanes before stopping just shy of a hanger or something to that effect. I do think they said the reason was the pilots coming in to fast though and not the weather, although im sure it was a contributing factor.

as far as weather FATALITIES, i dont think there are any ?

 

[JJET44]

Holly crap, You can't blame that on weather. Any pilot that has flown jets knows that you have to have engines spooled up. If anything it was the pilots fault for not meeting the criteria of a stabilized approach.

Configured, on speed and spooled up at 500agl VFR
Configured, on speed at 1000agl, spooled up at 500agl IFR
This is a good rule of thumb that I personally use.

Now if you discredit Airnet for making pilots fly when the weather is low IFR than it might be time for you to move on to a nice FAA job like others who are afraid to fly in hard IMC.

 

[USC328]

JJet44,

I'm not saying that the UCA accident was wx caused. It is a contributing factor in situational awareness. I don't discredit AirNet for anything. If you read my entire post, you can see I was a Starchecker for almost 2 years including the Learjet. Just curious, do you fly there, or have you flown there before? If so, you may know who I am. Anyways, if you hit the marker at 250kts in the Lear as they usually do, you will be at idle thrust most of the way, if not the entire way down to slow the aircraft. On clear days, that is the way the aircraft is flown. If it's low IMC, then I personally took it in a little slower and was "stabalized."

I am in no way afraid to fly low IMC as you hinted to in your post. I've done my share of 800RVR departures in a Caravan (Part 91 legs, no SIC) and approaches to minimums in blowing snow at night anywhere East of the Mississippi. I was a floater in the BE58, PA31, C208 and the jet, which if you ask any Starchecker, is probably the most challenging flying any AirNet pilot does, especially on the props by yourself. After flying at AirNet, the regionals is a vacation. Everything is automated and you lose your stick flying skills very fast. I just did my one year recurrent at my regional and chased the hand flown single engine ILS all the way down. I give props to ALL Starcheckers, cause I know they can fly circles around any regional pilot anyday. If I had to do a "fly off" with Guillotine007, I know he'd fly circles around me, once he made it past the taxi stage of course (Inside AirNet joke)

Keep up the good work Starcheckers. It's always fun to hear you guys on the radios. Enjoy your AirNet days, I miss them. It is the best flying you will ever do. Anyone who discredits your flying capabilities has probably never flown night freight and is used to getting all their flight plans handed to them with their coffee. Stay warm out there this winter and be sure to triple check the BE58 doors before departure. It can be a cold miserable night when your flying BDL to Farmington New York with a pax door popped open in IMC and freezing temps. I'll never forget that night. Door popped open 3 of 6 legs. It was nice of MX to show me the next morning the little trick with that specific aircraft. Aww, the life of a floater.

 

[Flysher]

haha funny you should mention that, I ferried a baron back from BKL last night and my door opened... now I gotta go talk to Triston about replacing my Ohio chart

Hey Im a floater also and I love the job! How hard was it for you to get a jet floater spot, and was it out of LCK? Thats where Id like to be.

 

[OUPilot]

I know of a few guys and a gal that want a lck floater sic spot. They are on the top of the prop list, and one will be a senior lateral. Just a heads up.

 

[Flysher]

thanks for the info. I guess it always just depends who wants what at the time. I wont even have 2000 for another 12-14 months at the rate im flying now anyway.

 

[OUPilot]

no prob. yeah, when nothing is going on, reserve can be tough. but hey, at least you get your 6 days off!