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don't worry about the contract...
first, that year goes by pretty quick.
second, i know a few people that left and refused to pay and were not challenged to pay after their refusal. But by all means at least stay for your first year, it is only good character to do so. You enterred into it, see it through. Airnet might even put in a negative word for you when your next job calls to see how good of an employee you were.
first, that year goes by pretty quick.
second, i know a few people that left and refused to pay and were not challenged to pay after their refusal. But by all means at least stay for your first year, it is only good character to do so. You enterred into it, see it through. Airnet might even put in a negative word for you when your next job calls to see how good of an employee you were.
Hello,
In addition to the $7,000.00 training contract, you are also are required to agree to stay in your initial domicile for one year. Neither of these requirements seem to unreasonable to me. AirNet is trying reduce their pilot training costs, and I was told that it is very likely that you will know your base/equipment prior to beginning training.
The latest information that I have is that AirNet is using AirApps to conduct some of the initial screening. I was offered an appointment for an interview and now I'm awaiting the phone call. Does anyone have any idea what AirApps does as a part of the screening? Also, what bases typically go junior? If I am forrtunate to be hired I'm hoping for RIC, BNA or BDL in that order.
Thanks and regards,
ex-Navy Rotorhead
In addition to the $7,000.00 training contract, you are also are required to agree to stay in your initial domicile for one year. Neither of these requirements seem to unreasonable to me. AirNet is trying reduce their pilot training costs, and I was told that it is very likely that you will know your base/equipment prior to beginning training.
The latest information that I have is that AirNet is using AirApps to conduct some of the initial screening. I was offered an appointment for an interview and now I'm awaiting the phone call. Does anyone have any idea what AirApps does as a part of the screening? Also, what bases typically go junior? If I am forrtunate to be hired I'm hoping for RIC, BNA or BDL in that order.
Thanks and regards,
ex-Navy Rotorhead
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Kaman...
well i do not know much about the hiring anymore, but i do know they have changed the system a lot. As you say, they are going to require you to stay base locked to cut down on training...it kinda sucks for those who don't get what they want.
I do however know that there are no junior bases, just bases that open up along the way. I know we should have a NEW(new Orleans) run on the next bid sheet...(the guy up and quit last week..just off of IOE too). See this new base lock hurts those who want to go to another base like the ones you prefer if they cannot get them right away...especially if it is in the same a/c type...that's what really gets me. Oh well, i guess if they give you a base choice going into class and you cannot get something you want then just thank them and say no thanks.
I really do not know what to say other than that.
well i do not know much about the hiring anymore, but i do know they have changed the system a lot. As you say, they are going to require you to stay base locked to cut down on training...it kinda sucks for those who don't get what they want.
I do however know that there are no junior bases, just bases that open up along the way. I know we should have a NEW(new Orleans) run on the next bid sheet...(the guy up and quit last week..just off of IOE too). See this new base lock hurts those who want to go to another base like the ones you prefer if they cannot get them right away...especially if it is in the same a/c type...that's what really gets me. Oh well, i guess if they give you a base choice going into class and you cannot get something you want then just thank them and say no thanks.
I really do not know what to say other than that.
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I know two BDL Runs just went to the last class.
RIC has been on the bid sheet for the last 3 or 4 weeks, there are 4 runs there. Luckily, I got the last one(which I think is the best one, off duty shortly after midnight!)....sorry! However, I hear there may be one or two of them opening up again real soon. I'm looking forward to moving somewhere where the average low temp for january is higher than the average high temp!
It would be more fair to the applicant if given the choice before accepting the job. But, someone willing to move anywhere, comes off as really wanting to work for the company. Makes you wonder if maybe we will start hiring into bases?
I agree with you starchkr, the a/c lock makes sense, but I think you should be able to transfer bases as long as no further training is needed....
When is your class Kaman?
RIC has been on the bid sheet for the last 3 or 4 weeks, there are 4 runs there. Luckily, I got the last one(which I think is the best one, off duty shortly after midnight!)....sorry! However, I hear there may be one or two of them opening up again real soon. I'm looking forward to moving somewhere where the average low temp for january is higher than the average high temp!
It would be more fair to the applicant if given the choice before accepting the job. But, someone willing to move anywhere, comes off as really wanting to work for the company. Makes you wonder if maybe we will start hiring into bases?
I agree with you starchkr, the a/c lock makes sense, but I think you should be able to transfer bases as long as no further training is needed....
When is your class Kaman?
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Hello,
IP076: No class date yet, but have a phone interview with AirApps tommorow afternoon. I guess this is a new portion of the screening process. With all the resumes that they must recieve it is a challenge to screen all those folks and keep costs down. Question, does anyone know the type of questions that are asked, and do you know afterward if you made the cut, and move onto the next step?
IP076: No class date yet, but have a phone interview with AirApps tommorow afternoon. I guess this is a new portion of the screening process. With all the resumes that they must recieve it is a challenge to screen all those folks and keep costs down. Question, does anyone know the type of questions that are asked, and do you know afterward if you made the cut, and move onto the next step?
Hello,
A couple of questions for you in the know...
What bases have C-310R's? And the length of training syllabus? From what I have read in the past, everyone was initially trained in the Baron, and transition training for aircraft you'll be flying on your run(s) if required. Is it correct that now you'll be trained only in the aircraft you'll actually fly out on the line?
Thanks to everyone for all their kind help over the past couple of years as I've climbed the ladder. I am looking foward to being a "Starchecker" and meeting some of you.
Regards,
ex-Navy Rotorhead
A couple of questions for you in the know...
What bases have C-310R's? And the length of training syllabus? From what I have read in the past, everyone was initially trained in the Baron, and transition training for aircraft you'll be flying on your run(s) if required. Is it correct that now you'll be trained only in the aircraft you'll actually fly out on the line?
Thanks to everyone for all their kind help over the past couple of years as I've climbed the ladder. I am looking foward to being a "Starchecker" and meeting some of you.
Regards,
ex-Navy Rotorhead
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Kaman...
As afr as i know the 310's are all in the deep south now. Birmingham and Florida that is. BHM is a big MX base for them, and i thought there was one in southern florida at one time also. Nice plane, not as nice as the Baron, but still pretty nice(just no darn Autopilot). I do not know about initial training as much as i used to, but yes we used to all learn the BE-58, then transition. I don't know how they will do it now...I would think they would still train you in the BE-58 just in case of a base closure since we have more Barons than anything else. Who knows...many new things on the horizon...by the way Expressjet is hiring with pretty much the same mins as Airnet.
CrewDawg...
As far as i know there is no multi experience requirement per se. They do want you to have some experience in them however, and the more the better, especially recency of experience. 135 mins are best for time overall, and i think i have heard that the SIC program is starting back up very shortly. This means we are very short on pilots, and we will be hiring like crazy this year.
As afr as i know the 310's are all in the deep south now. Birmingham and Florida that is. BHM is a big MX base for them, and i thought there was one in southern florida at one time also. Nice plane, not as nice as the Baron, but still pretty nice(just no darn Autopilot). I do not know about initial training as much as i used to, but yes we used to all learn the BE-58, then transition. I don't know how they will do it now...I would think they would still train you in the BE-58 just in case of a base closure since we have more Barons than anything else. Who knows...many new things on the horizon...by the way Expressjet is hiring with pretty much the same mins as Airnet.
CrewDawg...
As far as i know there is no multi experience requirement per se. They do want you to have some experience in them however, and the more the better, especially recency of experience. 135 mins are best for time overall, and i think i have heard that the SIC program is starting back up very shortly. This means we are very short on pilots, and we will be hiring like crazy this year.
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C310
The C310 is a great machine. Depending on who you ask, it IS nicer then the BE58. More roomy and more comfortable. Not having autopilot can be a hassle, but your stick skills stay sharp. They are all in the south right now, all except one in IND and another in CMH for training. The plan is to have them phased out and replaced with BE58s, soon, but when is still unknown. Some of them are not certified for icing, so those will be the first to go.
Good Luck!
PB76
The C310 is a great machine. Depending on who you ask, it IS nicer then the BE58. More roomy and more comfortable. Not having autopilot can be a hassle, but your stick skills stay sharp. They are all in the south right now, all except one in IND and another in CMH for training. The plan is to have them phased out and replaced with BE58s, soon, but when is still unknown. Some of them are not certified for icing, so those will be the first to go.
Good Luck!
PB76
Re: C310
You are right about the stick skills, those autopilots and HSI's spoil you.
The problem with getting rid of the bare a$$ 310s is they are the ones with radar (for the most part). Oh yeah the barons have radar with few exceptions.
I know the mechanics will miss the 310s, they are supposedly a lot easier to work on compared to a baron.
usc
The only person who would prefer a 310 over a 58 has never flown a 58. 58s have way more room especially if you move over to the rt seat and fold the rudder pedels up. Also I cant tell you how many times a have almost fallen asleep in a baron, not even close in a 310. Just look at the seats, the baron has a headrest and leans way back.pilotboy76 said:
You are right about the stick skills, those autopilots and HSI's spoil you.
The problem with getting rid of the bare a$$ 310s is they are the ones with radar (for the most part). Oh yeah the barons have radar with few exceptions.
I know the mechanics will miss the 310s, they are supposedly a lot easier to work on compared to a baron.
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310 Bashing time.....
It's not so bad if you like seeing those darn tip tanks flex way above the cockpit in turbulence...
It's not so bad if those stupid fuel tanks were not so complex...
It's not so bad if you don't mind folding yourself up to get cargo into that little door...
It's not so bad if it were faster...
It's not so bad if it didn't skin your knuckles or break your hand when extending the gear manually...
Yeah, all little things, but all of those have no comparison to the BE-58.
It's not so bad if you like seeing those darn tip tanks flex way above the cockpit in turbulence...
It's not so bad if those stupid fuel tanks were not so complex...
It's not so bad if you don't mind folding yourself up to get cargo into that little door...
It's not so bad if it were faster...
It's not so bad if it didn't skin your knuckles or break your hand when extending the gear manually...
Yeah, all little things, but all of those have no comparison to the BE-58.
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starchkr,
Are all your 58's pre-1984 models? Are any of the radars worth anything or do they just light up the cabin? I take it all your 310s are "R" models? Yea, Cessna really screwed ye ol pooch by not putting a big cabin door on the 310s. Also, no switching tanks in the Baron. The 3/400-series fuel selectors are worthless. And those tip tanks...great to have 600 lbs of fuel 18 ft rom the CG.
Are you guys still buying caravans and phasing out pistons?
Are all your 58's pre-1984 models? Are any of the radars worth anything or do they just light up the cabin? I take it all your 310s are "R" models? Yea, Cessna really screwed ye ol pooch by not putting a big cabin door on the 310s. Also, no switching tanks in the Baron. The 3/400-series fuel selectors are worthless. And those tip tanks...great to have 600 lbs of fuel 18 ft rom the CG.
Are you guys still buying caravans and phasing out pistons?
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deadstick...
I do believe that most of the 58's are pre-84, could be wrong on a few though. Most of the radars are pretty good, although some only like to show you stuff when you are within about 2 miles of it...just enough time to look at it figure out a way around it and then realize by that time you have already flown through it.
All of the 310's are R models. The one good thing about the 310, if you can fly that you will have a good hand up in the lear... those tip tanks give a pretty good feel between the two. Just double the fuel weight in the tip and move it out another 6 feet and there ya go.
I do believe that most of the 58's are pre-84, could be wrong on a few though. Most of the radars are pretty good, although some only like to show you stuff when you are within about 2 miles of it...just enough time to look at it figure out a way around it and then realize by that time you have already flown through it.
All of the 310's are R models. The one good thing about the 310, if you can fly that you will have a good hand up in the lear... those tip tanks give a pretty good feel between the two. Just double the fuel weight in the tip and move it out another 6 feet and there ya go.
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I don't usually chime in on stupid stuff people say but I couldn't pass on the comment about 310 being smaller inside than a BE-58. I have MANY hours in both. The 310 is a gentleman's airplane. Roomy with great visibility. BE-58 is faster, but you can't see anything while taxiing. If you want to argue the visiblity issue, I can direct you to a couple pilots that now have accidents on their record because they thought they could see better. Don't get me wrong, both are great planes. It's like arguing are big boobs with big butt better than small boobs with small butt. They are just different. Although I'm a small butt kind of man.
Trainees are now (as of 2/10/04) assigned a base first week of training and are trained in that plane. You might get a caravan and never touch a baron. I just talked to a friend that is going though right now. He was trained in the caravan and chiefton. His first time demonstating his ablilty to fly was at Flight Safety in the Caravan full motion sim (ouch). He made it but sounds like there are more pleasurable things to do in life, like timing how long your butt hair will stay on fire.
They do try to hold you to the training contract of $7k if you leave. I'm not going to comment one way or the other about bailing from your contract early. You'll get mixed opinions about not paying it. If you get fired they DO NOT hold you to it.
Initial ground training is done really well at this company. They go back and show you the right way to fly. You do need to be a quick learner because they are not there to teach you. But they will work with you a reasonable amount to get you up to speed. I "heard" that pass rates are up around 70-80% right now. Training is not hard just extremely stressful.
Bases are assigned to trainees (not hired until you finished your checkride) by whatever is available that wasn't bid. There are some great runs that don't get bid because people don't want to move. It's a total crap shoot. Once you get a base, you can bid other runs within that base. At the end of the year, you bid out to another base and another plane. I agree it sucks, but I have to agree with the seat locking. But I don't agree with the base locking. We are also hiring a TON of people. Washka just sent out a note in the bi-weekly memo talking about how many pilots we are going to be hiring. I heard on Thursday we are 16 people short right now, and people are still leaving to go to the regionals and majors that are hiring. We are also expanding like crazy on the charter side (Jetrides) with Lear 60's coming about as fast as they can train guys.
It really is a great company to work for. It's a good place to pay off the loans we all racked up learning to fly. I've been here 2 and a half years. Nights suck but the company is great. If you get hired and feel pushed to meet your deadlines, just slow down so you don't do anything stupid. Most guys that get fired have about 5-6 months with the company. Right when they start to get comfortable, they do something stupid. Like taxiing into something, or thinking you can stay up all day and fly that night, or being in too much of a hurry. You must move with a purpose but an extra 10 sec taxiing is not going to make a difference.
Trainees are now (as of 2/10/04) assigned a base first week of training and are trained in that plane. You might get a caravan and never touch a baron. I just talked to a friend that is going though right now. He was trained in the caravan and chiefton. His first time demonstating his ablilty to fly was at Flight Safety in the Caravan full motion sim (ouch). He made it but sounds like there are more pleasurable things to do in life, like timing how long your butt hair will stay on fire.
They do try to hold you to the training contract of $7k if you leave. I'm not going to comment one way or the other about bailing from your contract early. You'll get mixed opinions about not paying it. If you get fired they DO NOT hold you to it.
Initial ground training is done really well at this company. They go back and show you the right way to fly. You do need to be a quick learner because they are not there to teach you. But they will work with you a reasonable amount to get you up to speed. I "heard" that pass rates are up around 70-80% right now. Training is not hard just extremely stressful.
Bases are assigned to trainees (not hired until you finished your checkride) by whatever is available that wasn't bid. There are some great runs that don't get bid because people don't want to move. It's a total crap shoot. Once you get a base, you can bid other runs within that base. At the end of the year, you bid out to another base and another plane. I agree it sucks, but I have to agree with the seat locking. But I don't agree with the base locking. We are also hiring a TON of people. Washka just sent out a note in the bi-weekly memo talking about how many pilots we are going to be hiring. I heard on Thursday we are 16 people short right now, and people are still leaving to go to the regionals and majors that are hiring. We are also expanding like crazy on the charter side (Jetrides) with Lear 60's coming about as fast as they can train guys.
It really is a great company to work for. It's a good place to pay off the loans we all racked up learning to fly. I've been here 2 and a half years. Nights suck but the company is great. If you get hired and feel pushed to meet your deadlines, just slow down so you don't do anything stupid. Most guys that get fired have about 5-6 months with the company. Right when they start to get comfortable, they do something stupid. Like taxiing into something, or thinking you can stay up all day and fly that night, or being in too much of a hurry. You must move with a purpose but an extra 10 sec taxiing is not going to make a difference.
I am assuming that the first part of that quote is directed at me. Notice that I did stipulate that the rudder peddels should be down. Also with an autopilot you are free to get a bit more comfortable than a 310 would allow you since it does not have an a/p. I too have many hour in both.208starcheck said:
I am not sure about a baron being faster, especially in a climb. I can keep a 310 at 1000 feet per min up to 9000' easily. No I am not climbing at blue line. Try that in a baron it wont come close. My ground speeds seem faster in a 310 once I get to altitude also. I have heard that the tip tanks actually cut down on the induced drag, and the location of the engine intakes at the wing root rather than in the cowling (on a baron) keeps the mp higher when at alt.
You are right about visibility, you cant see sh!t in a baron. You sit alot higher above the inst panal in a 310, that helps.
In the end it is like be big butt/boob argument. It is a matter of taste. I have it and you dont!!!!
usc
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ALL A/C BASHING ASIDE...
WE NEED PEOPLE BADLY, APPLY NOW! I'M BEING STHRECHED BY THE COMPANY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE MOVING TWO PROP RUNS ELSEWHERE TO COVER FOR LACK OF PILOTS. MY DAY WENT FROM EASY TO 5 DAYS A WEEK AND A 12 HOUR DUTY DAY TO COVER THOSE TWO RUNS WHICH THEY MOVED. THEY SAY IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY UNTIL THEY CAN GET ENOUGH PILOTS TO FILL THE VACANCIES SO HURRY UP AND GET ON BOARD ALREADY!!!!!!!!
Anyway, everybody please apply, help a brotha' out. We really do need lots of pilots.
WE NEED PEOPLE BADLY, APPLY NOW! I'M BEING STHRECHED BY THE COMPANY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE MOVING TWO PROP RUNS ELSEWHERE TO COVER FOR LACK OF PILOTS. MY DAY WENT FROM EASY TO 5 DAYS A WEEK AND A 12 HOUR DUTY DAY TO COVER THOSE TWO RUNS WHICH THEY MOVED. THEY SAY IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY UNTIL THEY CAN GET ENOUGH PILOTS TO FILL THE VACANCIES SO HURRY UP AND GET ON BOARD ALREADY!!!!!!!!
Anyway, everybody please apply, help a brotha' out. We really do need lots of pilots.
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The wands have more to do with people who are both non company and not pilots of an approved airline. Pilots from approved airlines are allowed to jump.generaltso said:
The approved airlines are: ACA, Airtran, ATA, Mesa, PSA, Shuttle America, Skyway, Southwest, and USA 3000. So the recip agreement has not been affected
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deadstick...
I have no idea what bases are short, but any base flying for us is better than not having a job (or instructing ).
All of our original airlines are still taking us... they understand that it is not our fault and only the TSA that is limiting us. Wands have nothing to do with jumpseaters right now, we must be able to verify employment and run a SS# check with the TSA. So for now only certain airlines are allowed to ride.
I have no idea what bases are short, but any base flying for us is better than not having a job (or instructing
). All of our original airlines are still taking us... they understand that it is not our fault and only the TSA that is limiting us. Wands have nothing to do with jumpseaters right now, we must be able to verify employment and run a SS# check with the TSA. So for now only certain airlines are allowed to ride.
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