Airnet Barons

[erika]

Quick question...

I read somewhere that the Airnet Barons are mid-1970's models.
Since the Baron didn't get known-ice approval untill 1984 or so, how does airnet fly them "up north". Do they use them mostly in warmer areas, did they put the TKS system on them, or do they just go?

THanks
Erik

 

[jaybird]

All of our Barons are from differant years. The one's with alcohol de-ice go south in the winter. Other than that I know were allowed to go into ice, but I heard somewhere we had to do our best to get out if we encounter any.

I know someone has a better answer this, but I hope it helps.

 

[starcheck1]

Also..some of the older barons have been retrofitted with full deice equipment. The one I flew last night was a 70's model and fully certified for flight into known ice. I havent flown one yet that wasnt fully certified....but im up north so that is probably why.

 

[CMH Floater]

Ice in a light twin is overrated. Everyone makes it out to be this big huge nasty thing. Once you've flown through it 2 or 3 times, it's no big deal as long as your safe (weight-wise, alternate, and enough gas).

 

[upndsky]

This gets a little complicated so I'll try my best. The ice certification rules under Part 23 were rewritten in 1973. The problem is with aircraft that were certificated before 1973, like a lot of the older Barons, and the interpretation of FAR 135.227 which specifies when a plane can fly in icing. The way it is written, some inspectors interpreted it to say that only airplanes certified under the new Part 23 could fly in ice. However, the FAA issued a legal ruling on 9/27/94, titled ACE-250, that says that a plane certificated before 1973 can fly in icing provided it meets the requirements of 135.227.

At the company I fly for, we have several older Barons and would run into this problem all the time, where some inspectors would ground the planes because they weren't "approved" for ice. Now, that legal interpretation is actually part of our GOM. Plus our POI has said that our Barons are approved for icing.

I know this is a very generalized explanation but I hope that answers your questions. FYI, our Barons have boots for the wing and tail and alcohol for the props and windshield.

 

[erika]

Thanks guys! Got a call for a phone interview yesterday...

Not sure yet if I want to take a 1yr/$7000 contract though....


Erik

 

[starvingcfi]

are you kidding? you got a call and you're worried about having a 1 yr contract? it's just a freaking year.

...and you're just instructing now right? and you've got second thoughts about getting lots of ifr 135 night multi time?

tell me you're kidding. christ.

 

[jbDC9]

Thanks guys! Got a call for a phone interview yesterday...

Not sure yet if I want to take a 1yr/$7000 contract though....

I gotta go with Starvin' Marvin, uhh, I mean CFI on this one... forget the contract! Go do the interview, check 'em out.

Try to see this realistically; you're a 1500 hr CFI. You're not going to the regionals or commuters anytime soon; the airlines are hiring maybe a trickle of people and you're not competitive yet. Do whatever you can to get this job, it'll be the best experience you'll ever get, and it's only for a year to satisfy the contract. Chances are you'll be there longer than that anyway, but it's good quality time at a good company making pretty decent money. There is no downside to this, trust me, I've been there; it's waaay better to be trash hauling in a Baron or 310 than stuck right seat in a 152 or Warrior for the next year or two...

You gotta take that interview... it's your best chance at moving up in this messed up aviation world. You pass it up and I've got a half dozen CFIs at my local FBO that would kick your butt across the hangar for letting it go...


Former USC/Airnet puke, '90-'93.

 

[erika]

WHoa guys!

I said I wasn't sure! I am VERY VERY interested!
I haven't updated my info lately, but I am a current Part 135 on demand charter pilot in the Beech Duke and the Baron.

I would NEVER turn down the interview! It's just that I need to consider a couple of things.

1) I am married, and the wife has a good job.

2) I think I may be able to get a regional job in <1yr.

I would say that I am more likely then not to take an airnet job, even given the above. Although I do think $7000 is a bit steep.

Again, thanks guys!

Erik

 

[WrightAvia]

I would say that I am more likely then not to take an airnet job, even given the above. Although I do think $7000 is a bit steep.

Then you answered your own question then.