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[IB6 UB9]

"I thought a successful airline job was the one where you got paid well, lots of time off and did not have to block 950 hours in a year."

I would say a successful airline job these days is one where you get paid for flying airplanes, keep your job until you are ready to retire, and help your company stay in business instead of striving to send it to bankruptcy. You idiot.

 

[t38dude]

AlbieF15,

Well said as usual.

T38dude

 

[Minor league]

My previous comments about Air Force pilots were obviously unprofessional and silly. Just a little venting. Let me say that I don't hate Air Force types. On the contrary, I have many friends that are Air Force.

My frustration actually lies in the bias that exists in the hiring "system".

Don't take my word for it, just look at a few of the online applications. An obvious bias exsists that makes exceptions for the shortcomings of the single engine jet fighter types. This same bias does not accept any helicopter time. (Jet Blue, South West) And disreguards multi-engine turbine time from B1900 pilots. (MGTOW of Greater than 20000 lbs.)

Bias pain and simple. Don't deny it.

So what gives? Can you blame me for being frustrated by a hiring "system" at the "majors" that takes pains to make way for your transition and punishes the rest of us?????? It is indeed the good ole boy system at it's worst.

 

[Minor league]

"Les"

There is a bias at the "majors" because the hiring department is full of, and influenced by this age old ex- Air Force or call it what you will system.

I call it the good ole boy system.

Yes "Les"...... flying fighters VFR and dropping bombs and doing attack runs completely justifies your going to the show.

Why did'nt I see that?

Thank you for your wisdom.

Just like the book "Animal Farm" We are all equal, but some are more equal than others.

Just calling it like I see it.

 

[spanky2]

Hey Little League,
Look in the mirror and say to yourself...the world needs ditch diggers, too. You speak with ignorance about single seat fighter pilots. You should write your posts with green font, as in envy.

 

[Minor league]

Missing the point.

Your egos won't let you accept the truth.

What's all this talk about envy, bitterness, hatefullness?

Just jerkin some chains.

Good luck to all of you. You can't and won't see the fact that you are "cutting in line". For every "walk on" that does'nt pay any civilian dues, is a another pilot stuck in the minor league who continues to have to wait to go to the show.

But pilots eat their own.

What did we always say in the military? Oh yeah....."I got mine"

 

[LEROY]

I'm sorry Albie, but I'm going to have to disagree with you. There is NO WAY a dead cat could smash a Navy P-3 pilot. And I'm pretty sure all us skypig drivers might get a little offended at getting bludgeoned by a piece of road kill. Not to mention the possibly nasty disposition of said cat himself.

 

[PurpleTail]

Minor-

I like your sense of humor and your touch of vinegir in your posts, some people do need to lighten up a little

There are some truths to what you say but everyone knows, in this indusrty, you need a little luck and a lot of good timing...oh yea and some personality to get hired a "major". Thats it. First-Be qualified...Second-Be at the right place at the right time.

I am sure you have some great qualifications and if this was year 1999 or 2000 United would have you in class right now. But times have changed and not just for the civilians (me) either, the military types too.

 

[AlbieF15]

Hmmm..

I only had a degree in aviation management, not aerospace engineering, so I may need some mutual support from engineer types....

However, Momentum = Mass x Velocity(squared), I think there might actually be a point where I COULD effectively smash a P-3 pilot effectively with a dead cat. This would not only add some levity to a late night in the AOC, it would have positive ramifications on my stagnating seniority.

Therefore...for you high math types...provided I DO locate a dead cat, with a weight of 8 pounds, what speed to I need to acheive to in effect, "smash" a 180 pound 6' hypothetical former P-3 pilot (preferalbly one who relishes sliding his seat back prohibiting me from opening my "desk of shame" while at the same time requesting coffee right as I filling out the TOLD card, inspecting HAZ paperwork, and calling GOC for a change to the FPR).

Realizing that I am 6'2" with slightly above average arm length, can you calculate the required radial velocity to swing the dead cat to acheive the desired impact results on said target?

I'd do that math, but instead of taking higher physics I was teaching touch and gos at the local AUO aiport or off at the War Eagle Supper Club or Ryan's trying to locate a girl foolish enough to waste her time with me, or pehaps getting counseld (again) by the AFROTC staff on professionalism, taking the program seriously, blah blah blah. So I need some help here...

I do know, however, that the five of six pointy ends of a cat are not a hazard if said cat is DEAD. Honestly, Leroy...how can you miss the obvious? So...if you want a bonus problem, somebody calculate the same equation with a LIVE cat, and include the additional damaging effects of snarling teeth and slashing claws. I will also need some tips on maximizing damage to the target of said aggession while preventing any injuries to my own person during the attack from the certainly aggravated feline.

Your help is appreciated.

 

[tkr-toad]

REALITY

Minor -
Face it, judgements and values are a human trait and whether empirically arrived at or not, they influence the decisions of individuals/companies/nations all the time. I'll try not to stretch the analogy too thin, but I'm sure you prefer a spouse/lover with one hair color over another or body type or religion or whatever it is that you value in your selection process. Some of it may be rational and some may be not. But tell me, what would you say to the stick-thin blonde atheist (no knocking of course) who you would rather not date, no matter how funny/intelligent/wealthy they are, when that person whines that it's "not fair" that the Presbyterian redheads always are first in line with you. Life's "not fair" in that case as well as the job market. I can work my be-hind off and be Magna Cum Laude at Texas Tech but I'm naive if I think that the Harvard grad won't get special consideration ahead of me just for going there. Does it make sense? Maybe/maybe not but things associated with you rightly or wrongly say a little bit about you. You hear all of the time that the military pilot is a "known quantity" due to the quality of training and experience. Does that mean any given AF pilot is more desirable to a company than any given corporate pilot? Maybe to certain companies and not to others. Accept that fact of life and make the best of the position you're in and you will be rewarded with whatever the "system" presents to you in the future. Heck, I was at a desk ("banked") for three years in the AF but I don't cry over the fact that had the Cold War not ended, I would have another 1500 hours by now. I just accept my qualifications and work to improve them, not look for others to blame because I'm deficient in some area (whether it be my fault or not). I suggest you do the same.

 

[LEROY]

Alright, everyone sit down, 'cause this thread is hereby hijacked. Nobody moves, nobody gets hurt.

Albie, in your lofty, ethereal world of "theory" you are correct; Sir Isaac Newton will back you up on that one. Indeed it would be theoretically possible. However, back down here in reality, there isn't a lawn-dart driver alive with the upper-body strength necessary to impart enough angular momentum on a deceased feline to, in effect, "smash" any human, let alone one built as sturdily as a P-3 pilot.

However, I can see an instance whereby, with a live cat of considerable fortitude, such as a hungry lion or disturbed Bengal tiger, you could probably impart enough damage to equate to a "smashing." But you would have to immediately flee the area to avoid any collateral damage. And any attempt to swing an animal of such size and ferocity would probably prove fatal.

I also know that, with as many of us P-3 pilots as there are in Graceland, there are quite a few who are junior to you. So when you finally upgrade to a window seat, they might be silently contemplating ways to give YOU a drubbing using the corpses of small, domesticated pets as weapons!

 

[smellthejeta]

Albie,

I hate to rain on your parade, but momentum (p) = mass * velocity, not p=m*v(squared). You wanted: kinetic energy = mass * velocity(squared).

 

[Dizel8]

hmmm, knew it would come back to haunt me

So yes, you could perhaps accelerate a dead kitty to a high enough velocity to bruise said P-3 driver, but I would advise running rather quickly after the toss.

 

[crazee8]

Meoouch!!

 

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