Airline pilots and BFRs

[atldc9]

Actually, the reg 61.56(d), specifically exempts certain individuals from the requirement for a flight review. Completing a 121 or 135 check for an 'operating priviledge' , ie a 121.441 check, would meet that requirement.

Therefore, if you are an airline pilot who takes a checkride at least once every 2 years, you would be exempt from the requirement to have the Flight Review required by 61.56.

Now, if you have not taken a checkride within the past 2 years, ie perhaps a mgmt pilot, you would need to accomplish the Flight Review required by 61.56.

FAR 61.56:

d) A person who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c) of this section, passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by an examiner, an approved pilot check airman, or a U.S. Armed Force, for a pilot certificate, rating, or operating privilege need not accomplish the flight review required by this section.

 

[ParrotheadPilot]

Just a little off the subject. This week I'm going to give a BFR to a retired airline pilot who flew the line for 24 years. Is there anything I could possibly ask him that he wouldn't already know? Or would it basically be a learning experience for me? He's got a Bonanza and I just want it to be a good time for both of us. I've given BFR's before, just never to an airline captain...any thoughts on what I should go through on the ground and in the air?

 

[atldc9]

Airspace, vfr rules, TFR's, non-towered op's, etc. I haven't flown anything but a large jet in over 5 years, I'm not sure I'd want to go jump in a Cessna.

Anyway, ask him what he wants to cover, he will porbably have a pretty good idea. Instrument skills would probably not be a priority.

My .02

 

[ParrotheadPilot]

ATLDC9

Thanks for your reply. I had planned on asking him what he wanted to cover. I'll probably talk about airspace and TFR's at the least then buzz over to a non-towered airport since we fly out of Class D. Also do a little instrument work...he flew for Eastern so he's probably a bit rusty on all things instrument. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[I.P. Freley]

When I was an active CFI, the hairiest aircraft checkouts were with airline pilots... The biggest problem they have is that they don't hear anything on the radio that doesn't start with their company's callsign ("CESSNA 1234A, THIRD CALL, ARE YOU TURNING BASE YET!!??), and the first dozen radio calls inevitably started with "Jetlin...Uhhh...Cessna 1234A downwind for 19" (heck, I even did that the first time I flew a single after 10mos at an airline, as much as I prepared myself NOT to). They also haven't used any VFR charts in a while and need to get back in the swing of being careful you don't bust airspace.

Unless he's a total plick, he'll be eager to hear what you have to say, if only to keep himself out of trouble. He probably knows how to fly his own airplane, it's just getting into the VFR groove again that he'll need to brush up on.

And hey, like you said, you will probably pick up a few things from him, as well.

 

[mach tuck]

So here's my question. I haven't had to complete a flight review for currency yet since I would take a checkride for a rating and 119 days later, a new certificate would come. My question is, if you just accomplish a flight review, do you get a new certificate sent to you, or just keep your old one?

 

[vclean]

A flight review is detailed in FAR 61.56. Minimum one hour ground instruction, one hour flight instruction. Upon satisfactory completion, a logbook entry is made. No certificate is reissued. You cannot 'fail' a BFR (biannual flight review), you simply continue to receive instruction until satisfactory performance is observed.

Earning a new certificate or rating, or successful completion of a phase of the FAA Wings program are two of several ways to satisfy the requirements of 61.56.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Do y'all just say "screw the single engine currency" thing? Do you have time to get in 3 landings day / night in 90 days in say a 152, piper, bonanza, etc? or is that something that you don't worry about anymore?

-mini

Unfortunately I haven't flown for "fun" in about 8 years. With a furlough,kids,dogs,house,car payements,401K, and a wife there ain't much left over at the end of the month to go and rent an airplane. Someday.....................................