Airline Jobs in High Demand...

[FN FAL]

http://www.kinston.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=24573&Section=Local

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Jobs in high demand!!

With all the lay-offs in every sector of the job market, the news media is just figuring this out?

 

[FN FAL]

Jobs in high demand!!

With all the lay-offs in every sector of the job market, the news media is just figuring this out?

It's not the news media's job to figure anything out...they are just selling advertising and promoting agenda.

How boring would life be without liberal Sheriffs and liberal media persons conspiring with each other in an effort to curtail our liberties by repeating lies and pre-planned "innacuracies" in the tv and newspapers.

 

[pilotyip]

Hiring?

I do not know what is going on but Kalitta (747) just hired two of our pilots, one with no turbin PIC and the other biggest airplane he has flown is the DA-20. A year ago one of DC-9 Captains went there and said he was the only guy in the class who did have heavy (3-4 engine) airplane int'l experience. Could it be they can not find experienced pilots? Is this one those signs again of the coming 2007 hiring boom?

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Kalitta (747) just hired two of our pilots

Two pilots. Well, the hiring boom is upon us!
Let me see, two guys hired from USA Jet going to Kalitta. Could they have possibly had an internal rec or two? Nawwwww.

Could it be they can not find experienced pilots? Is this one those signs again of the coming 2007 hiring boom?

Someone needs to call the EPA and have the water in Ypsilanti checked.

 

[FN FAL]

I do not know what is going on but Kalitta (747) just hired two of our pilots, one with no turbin PIC and the other biggest airplane he has flown is the DA-20. A year ago one of DC-9 Captains went there and said he was the only guy in the class who did have heavy (3-4 engine) airplane int'l experience. Could it be they can not find experienced pilots? Is this one those signs again of the coming 2007 hiring boom?

we have been hiring a few and someone just posted a link to Ameriflight's need for pilots. A guy we just washed out in IOE has an interview at CHQ. Eagle was just in a big hiring mode. Sounds like FedEx, SWA, UPS and others are hiring. NWA airlines is going to start a third regional to operate their 70's seaters and according to one NWA gent, this will be a direct hire gravy train into NWA.

 

[pilotyip]

Hugh missed the point

Maybe I could have made it clearer, but the message was there is never a pilot shortage. With an approaching hiring boom companies start lowering their competitive minimums. Remember 2001 Regional hiring 350 TT 100 MEL. As 2007 approaches, we will see competitive minimums approach absolute minimums. Things like the preferred college degree will become less important. So by Kalitta hiring less experienced pilots in this class than in previous classes, it is a sign the pilot pool is loosing its most experienced guys.

 

[wheelsup]

NWA airlines is going to start a third regional to operate their 70's seaters a

Any news as to when?

~wheelsup

 

[FN FAL]

Any news as to when?

~wheelsup

No...that was meant as a barb on the whole starting a third airline to fly 70 seaters at NWA thing.

There's some furloughed NWA pilot that's flying military in the Gulf, who said he wants the war to last long enough for the seventy seaters to go away. Maybe you can do a search on the major section or do a www.google.com search for NWA and 70 seaters for more info.

The military guy was chirping about not wanting to fly the 70 seaters at low pay and how NWA wasn't going to let Pinnacle or Mesaba pilots fly them...so they said it was best to start a third airline as a direct stepping stone to getting employment at NWA. That's the last I heard of it.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

So by Kalitta hiring less experienced pilots in this class than in previous classes, it is a sign the pilot pool is loosing its most experienced guys.

Poppycock.
It's a sign that those guys had an "in".

How many TWA whale drivers do you suppose are on the street? NWA? UAL? AA and USAir guys with heavy metal time? Former Kittyhawk guys? Yeah, it's a dryyyyyyy pool out there.

 

[FN FAL]

Any news as to when?

~wheelsup

Here is what I found, it's from fall 2004, but it's the best information I can find on the subject..

ALPA answers NWA 70-seat proposal

by Gregory Polek

The Air Line Pilots Association finally appears ready to play ball with Northwest Airlines as the Minneapolis-based company pushes for a new deal to allow 70-seat jets
to fly within the Northwest Airlink regional network. But, as usual, ALPA has its own ideas about where those airplanes fit within the system and has proposed a separate division that would look conspicuously like US Airways’ MidAtlantic unit. Of course, ALPA’s plan would bar regional affiliates Pinnacle and Mesaba Airlines from expanding into the 70-seat jet arena with Northwest, leaving those affiliates with no choice but to search outside the Northwest network, potentially sending competitive ripples through the regional marketplace.

Memphis-based Pinnacle, which laid the foundation for an eventual venture outside the Northwest system when it launched an IPO early in 2002, has become the subject of talk surrounding a new deal with existing Northwest code-share partner Continental Airlines. Although Continental’s scope clause does not allow regional affiliates to fly jets that hold more than 59 passenger seats on routes involving a Continental hub (Houston, Cleveland and Newark), it does allow 60- to 80-seat jets between a Continental
hub and a Northwest Airlines hub as long as those carriers’ marketing agreement stays in effect.

Mesaba, meanwhile, continues to pursue new code-share business for its Big Sky Airways subsidiary. This spring Mesaba broke off contract talks with United Airlines when the major airline asked Mesaba to sign a 10-year contract while assuming the liability for 15-year airplane leases.

Northwest’s existing scope clause bars Mesaba and Pinnacle from flying airplanes certified for more than 55 passenger seats except for Mesaba’s “grandfathered” Avro RJs. Although it allows an unlimited number of jets of up to 44 seats in capacity, it effectively restricts the number of bigger jets to 35 (not including the Avros), and expansion of that number depends on narrowbody fleet growth at the mainline. As a result, Bombardier offered
a 44-seat version of its CRJ200 known as the CRJ440, 75 of which Northwest ordered in 2002.

Fleet Makeup in Question
In July Pinnacle took delivery of its 100th CRJ out of a contracted total of 129. As deliveries end this summer, Northwest must decide whether to add to the 44-seat fleet or wait to reach a deal with its pilots on 70-seaters. It plans to take another 72 airplanes, 19 of which must go to Pinnacle to satisfy its contractual guarantee of 129 jets. Mesaba still hopes to win the flying rights to the remaining 53.

ALPA’s proposal for 70-seat jets came in late July, a full year after Northwest asked for scope clause relief at Mesaba and Pinnacle as part of its Section 6 contract “opener.” Conceding that Northwest won’t consider extending its mainline pay scale to 70-seat jets, ALPA has offered to accept pay rates “competitive with those at other 70-seat operators in the industry.” Among the companies it cites is Comair, which pays its 14-year CRJ700 captains $100.35 an hour and five-year copilots $44.96 an hour, and American Eagle, whose CRJ700 pilots draw $84.79 and $34.75, respectively.

Introducing another so-called “jets for jobs” scheme, ALPA’s plan would grant furloughed Northwest pilots first rights to any jobs created within the new 70-seat operation. Anyone flying at Northwest would retain the right to refuse a job at the new division and accept voluntary furlough, and all the pilots flying 70-seaters would keep their place on the Northwest Airlines seniority list.

Of course, the proposal has already sparked protests from regional pilots who point to the recent US Airways-MidAtlantic contract revisions as evidence of ALPA’s contempt for the Duty of Fair Representation Act. Pilots from US Airways subsidiaries Piedmont and Allegheny Airlines, now integrated into a single carrier, have filed a class action lawsuit that charges ALPA with failing to defend their interests by unilaterally changing the US Airways Jets for Jobs agreement after the regional pilots approved a previous version.

Under the first plan, the pilots agreed to pay, work-rule and Jets for Jobs concessions under the premise that US Airways would place regional jets with Piedmont and Allegheny and award half the positions to their existing pilots. Later, after the airline decided to consolidate, US Airways threatened to close Allegheny if its pilots did not drop a small-jet grievance and agree to a merger. ALPA then allowed a vote to accept the proposal by a committee of eight MEC members to stand without ratification by the 327 pilots.

“From what I can tell from ALPA’s publications, [ALPA’s Northwest proposal] is a re-hash of the union’s MidAtlantic plan at US Airways,” said Dan Ford, head of the Crescent Springs, Ky.-based regional jet advocacy group, RJ Defense Coalition. “The fact that ALPA failed to mention its MidAtlantic experiment [in the July 21 Northwest MEC report, Across the Table] shouldn’t be overlooked.”

Once again, the argument centers on ALPA’s failure to adequately address the conflict of interest inherent in its simultaneous representation of mainline and regional pilots. “How can ALPA be expected to properly discharge its duties to the Mesaba and Pinnacle pilots when one of the union’s largest constituencies [Northwest Airlines pilots] is calling for the creation of another ‘preferred’ small-jet carrier?” said Ford. “Furthermore, it appears that the union still plans on restricting the 70-seaters both operationally and numerically. This indicates that the union still believes it to be something ‘less than’ the very capable airliner it really is.”

 

[Rhoid]

I do not know what is going on but Kalitta (747) just hired two of our pilots, one with no turbin PIC and the other biggest airplane he has flown is the DA-20. A year ago one of DC-9 Captains went there and said he was the only guy in the class who did have heavy (3-4 engine) airplane int'l experience. Could it be they can not find experienced pilots? Is this one those signs again of the coming 2007 hiring boom?

Randy, neither your company, USAJet or Kalitta are jobs worth having. I'll stay where I am and wait for my interview at UPS or FedEx. And yes for you naysayers, I have ins at both companies.

 

[LearLove]

.....and wait for my interview at UPS or FedEx. And yes for you naysayers, I have ins at both companies.

please print this out and bring it to your interview(s). I cannot believe the things people say around here.

 

[FN FAL]

please print this out and bring it to your interview(s). I cannot believe the things people say around here.

Hahaha...I know someone who has multiple college degrees, military time, squadron buddies in house and a brother that is in the trianing department over at FedEx and they still can't get in.

Keep dreaming...

 

[VABB]

I do not know what is going on but Kalitta (747) just hired two of our pilots, one with no turbin PIC and the other biggest airplane he has flown is the DA-20. A year ago one of DC-9 Captains went there and said he was the only guy in the class who did have heavy (3-4 engine) airplane int'l experience. Could it be they can not find experienced pilots? Is this one those signs again of the coming 2007 hiring boom?

Or could it be that nobody wants to work for Kalitta whether they lack the experience or not?

Using hiring at Kalitta to say there is an impending hiring boom is like looking at higher than normal sales at Burger King and McDonalds and saying more people are going out and dining on fine cuisine.

 

[reepicheep]

There are a ton of guys at my airline, usair, furloughed or just looking, who can't land a job let alone an interview at jetBlue, Southwest, UPS, etc...

 

[jbDC9]

Randy, neither your company, USAJet or Kalitta are jobs worth having. I'll stay where I am and wait for my interview at UPS or FedEx. And yes for you naysayers, I have ins at both companies.

Yep, another gem from Rhoid... a true loser with more ego than brains. Either that, or he just likes flamebait...

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Either that, or he just likes flamebait...

Nawwwwwwww.

 

[Xfr8dog]

I was one of the guys hired at Kalitta and I did NOT have an "in". Sorry. The more likely truth is that not many people want to work there. Its 17 days on, straight. Away from wifey and little junior. This followed by two weeks straight off. This lifestyle is NOT for everyone. I can see it ruining marriages and causing "abandonment issues" in little tots.

Myself being single and loving nothing more than leaving the country to explore new places, Its absolutely perfect for me.

 

[potrack]

Hiring at Kalitta

Regarding Pilotyips previous post about the guys with little experience or no turbine PIC that got hired at Kalitta.....

...maybe it is not the fact that they can't find qualified pilots....maybe no one wants to fly for that operation??

 

[Xfr8dog]

Everyone that I've talked to that flies there loves it. But again, I stress, it's not for everyone. The lifestyle is demanding on a family guy.

I can't wait to check back in here in a few months and tell you how much I love it.

more later....


)'(

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Congrats, Xfr8. For those of us not slave to a ball and chain and a taste for the exotic, that´s the coolest kind of job going.

 

[freightdogfred]

Randy, neither your company, USAJet or Kalitta are jobs worth having. I'll stay where I am and wait for my interview at UPS or FedEx. And yes for you naysayers, I have ins at both companies.

Yeah, I've seen your "ins",,,You're so **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** dumb you diss the man you're begging a rec from...I can't wait to see your A$$ on the ramp in DFO and kick it...JA

 

[surplus1]

I do not know what is going on but Kalitta (747) just hired two of our pilots, one with no turbin PIC and the other biggest airplane he has flown is the DA-20. A year ago one of DC-9 Captains went there and said he was the only guy in the class who did have heavy (3-4 engine) airplane int'l experience. Could it be they can not find experienced pilots? Is this one those signs again of the coming 2007 hiring boom?

Sorry to say it but it is far more likely that experienced pilots choose not to work at the bottom of the barrel. That name has a reputation in the industry that most folks that have been around would avoid like the plague.

 

[pilotyip]

Define bottom?

Sorry to say it but it is far more likely that experienced pilots choose not to work at the bottom of the barrel. That name has a reputation in the industry that most folks that have been around would avoid like the plague.

For those of us who have faced standing in the unemployment line or working for a so-called bottom feeder. The bottom feeder beats the day lights out of the unemployment line. Even here, at USA Jet I get resumes from USAirways, TWA, and even Delta and UAL furloughees. In addition, a few have even stooped so low as to welcome the opportunity to have a job. I guess surplus has never had to do that and has an alternate career to wall back on.