Airline Hiring and DD-214

[NavinRJohnson]

Military Transition types:

Were any of you able to start training while on terminal leave? Or, did you have to have your DD-214 in hand before starting? My personnel dept said that I wouldn't get that document until I was done with any terminal leave.

I'd rather get out early, but I've been told by one particular airline that I'd have to have my DD-214 before even interviewing... Another Airline didn't even mention it (although they put me in a pool. maybe that makes a difference)

Anyone know of workarounds on this? What's the scoop?

Thanks in advance, Navin

 

[michael707767]

Military Transition types:

Were any of you able to start training while on terminal leave? Or, did you have to have your DD-214 in hand before starting? My personnel dept said that I wouldn't get that document until I was done with any terminal leave.

I'd rather get out early, but I've been told by one particular airline that I'd have to have my DD-214 before even interviewing... Another Airline didn't even mention it (although they put me in a pool. maybe that makes a difference)

must depend on the airline. I started at my first airline while on terminal leave. At my second airline, there was at least one guy in my class on terminal leave. So, I would just go by what each airline says.

 

[Okaythen]

I've never heard of a requirement to have your DD-214 prior to interview. Most military guys I know, including myself, interviewed several months prior to separation, and this was with a variety of airlines. Additionally, everyone I know who separated from the Air Force started class during terminal leave (this was back in the boom days of 2000-2001).

I have a hard time imagining an HR individual who isn't familiar with how long it takes to get a DD-214; maybe this person is new. Perhaps you could offer up your separation paperwork or ask the question again to a different individual.

From what I know you have encountered a rare (hopefully inaccurate) requirement: certainly not the norm.

 

[scoreboard]

get a copy of your retirment/sep paperwork

Which includes a copy of the working copy of the dd214. You will not see the "REAL" dd214 unitl well after sep or retirment (months). If you are separating and have not as yet dropped paperwork, thats what the airline is trying to prevent is you not getting out until they tender a job, then you cannot get out do to stop loss this, that etc...

 

[NavinRJohnson]

Thanks for the gouge. I'll push the issue harder w/ these guys when I get closer. In a nice, extremely tactful way of course.

Navin

 

[NavinRJohnson]

Scoreboard:

Working copy sounds like an awesome way to go about it... I think that'll work out just fine.

Thanks...

 

[TonyC]

You will not see the "REAL" dd214 unitl well after sep or retirment (months).

I drove off base with mine in hand.









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[scoreboard]

You didn't retire from Idaho...

I drove off base with mine in hand









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Plus, I only gave them 5 months notice

 

[FNG320]

I was told by several airlines that letter from the commander stating your start of terminal leave (availablity date) and actual retirement date would suffice for a DD-214. All they really want is the warm fuzzy that the availablity date you give is accurate.

FNG

 

[chum2]

I'm on terminal leave and in B-6 Training right now....I only have a copy of my DD-214 and the final one will not be sent to me until after my separation date.

 

[white E]

You don't need a DD form 214 to be hired ( may be off topic a little)...that would be illegal. I would think that a letter from your CC would be plenty.
-W-

 

[floater_b2]

I'm in training at UPS and on terminal right now. All they told me is that when I get a copy of it to bring it in to them. They did require a letter from my CC stating that I was indeed getting off active duty for my interview, however. Good luck.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Which airline is requiring a DD214 for interview? Don't worry, naming them won't I.D. you. I'm sure a few are in the process.

 

[NavinRJohnson]

It was ASA. I mispoke about the interview thing. I couldn't start ground school without the DD-214 in hand, not the interview. The bottom line is I would still be sitting around doing nothing on terminal leave... Not what I want to do really.

I know, I'm in the wrong forum for that particular airline, but I've apps in with SWA, CAL and Blu, among others. Plan for the worst, hope for the best...

And, what I wanted to know was if this was an across the board type restriction, majors or otherwise. From the replies, it shouldn't be too much of a factor. Looks like as long as I provide adequate documentation that I'm indeed getting out that I'll be taken onboard during terminal leave.

Once again, thanks for all the great input. No group hug necessary. Heh.

Navin

 

[MalteseX]

It was ASA. I mispoke about the interview thing. I couldn't start ground school without the DD-214 in hand, not the interview. The bottom line is I would still be sitting around doing nothing on terminal leave... Not what I want to do really.

I know, I'm in the wrong forum for that particular airline, but I've apps in with SWA, CAL and Blu, among others. Plan for the worst, hope for the best...

And, what I wanted to know was if this was an across the board type restriction, majors or otherwise. From the replies, it shouldn't be too much of a factor. Looks like as long as I provide adequate documentation that I'm indeed getting out that I'll be taken onboard during terminal leave.

Once again, thanks for all the great input. No group hug necessary. Heh.

Navin

I actually went to work/attended training while on ORDINARY leave when I was getting out. I had no problems with any airline. I gave them a copy of my separation orders AND the working copy of the DD Form 214 and a copy of approved terminal leave papers (which I later rescinded).... I've never given a copy of the ACTUAL DD-214 to anyone even after getting out. Basically, I got my airline schedule and worked active duty days on my days "off" from the airline. I had to get approval from the AF to do that, but they gave it.... that way, I was able to sell back 60 days of leave and work 2 jobs.
Bottom line--be up front and get all paperwork (leave forms, Working copy of DD 214, separation/retirement orders, letter from commanding officer) and let everyone know what you want to do.... both the military AND your potential future employer. If you have a commander that wants a recommendation after he/she retires, you're in good shape!