Airline Biz Blog Reports on SWAPA/ALPA Process Agreement

[Lear70]

Our unions will get together in a month or so to resume the meetings and they'll work it out. In the meantime life goes on.

Would be surprised if they've haven't at *LEAST* been passing emails back and forth on proposals since the whole issue came up, much less had some telephone or video meetings about it.

The fact that it's taken over a week to hammer out one small change tells me that, as was mentioned before, the lawyers likely caught something in the new language that was T.A.'d in the final hours of talks (just like our update from the MEC said last Friday) that contradicted something that had been previously agreed to back in Dec (like Chase said in his update). The truth is always somewhere in the middle...

Like Ty said, sometimes when pilots are crafting complex documents, our linear thinking doesn't go back and remember something we did two months ago and prompt us to say "Hey wait a second, that won't work with this sentence on page 27 that we worked on back before Christmas." Works the same with contract negotiations, and that's why both sides have lawyers.

It'll get worked out... obviously it was something important or it would have been solved by now. Like Gup said,,, life goes on. :beer:

 

[waveflyer]

Or the lawyers know how to get a billable hour out of a client that's going away...

 

[tab flyer]

It will be a fair even handed SLI. One side will not see it that way when It is over though.

This won't be a case of everyone being pissed when it is done. The cards are squarely in one sides corner and that will count for more than anything else in the end.

One thing is for sure and that is the AirTran pilots will be treated fairly and no matter the SLI result it will have been handled equitably as far as they are concerned.

The SWA pilots will be pleased when it is finished but we need to thrash in the meantime.

Well sorry, but you will be disappointed, but you will be more realistic about your next SLI expectations after you buy AS. You all will be past the steep part of the learning curve by then.

Cheers

 

[Bob Dylan]

We should ignore them for a month or two or in fact a year or two let them keep making RJ wages. I can hold out for another 20 years or so.

ALPA will kill this deal in the end........I'm just saying

That's what I see happening also. The AirTran boys will never take their heads out of their butts. What a shame. I don't think a staple is even on the table anymore. Likely they will offer preferential interviews to some of the Guadaloupe pilots - the ones that actually want to be at Southwest will get an interview.

 

[livintheredream]

that's what i see happening also. The airtran boys will never take their heads out of their butts. What a shame. I don't think a staple is even on the table anymore. Likely they will offer preferential interviews to some of the guadaloupe pilots - the ones that actually want to be at southwest will get an interview.

tool!

 

[flynvixen]

three

 

[Lear70]

tool!

Just don't feed the trolls (responding to their posts) and they'll eventually go away.

Been dozens of them during the time this board has been running, they come, and eventually, after everyone realizes they're not here to offer anything constructive and they just start ignoring them, they go away (or create a new screen name).

Nothing to see here... moving along...

 

[Ty Webb]

after everyone realizes they're not here to offer anything constructive and they just start ignoring them, they go away (or create a new screen name)

Hey, I'm doing my part!

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[ivauir]

Just don't feed the trolls (responding to their posts) and they'll eventually go away.

Been dozens of them during the time this board has been running, they come, and eventually, after everyone realizes they're not here to offer anything constructive and they just start ignoring them, they go away (or create a new screen name).

Nothing to see here... moving along...

Great in theory, but the practical application leaves something to be desired ... OYS and GL are still here ...

 

[Lear70]

Great in theory, but the practical application leaves something to be desired ... OYS and GL are still here ...

LOL!! Touche',,,

 

[Jetjockey]

Vixen is an embarrassment to real SWA pilots. Flame-baiter extraordinaire, in fact the Master Baiter.

 

[flynvixen]

Vixen is an embarrassment to real SWA pilots. Flame-baiter extraordinaire, in fact the Master Baiter.

Oh please MR. Jetjockey,

are the opposing view points, other than the complete BS that comes from ALPA so offensive to you ???

WTFO man up and stand your ground. You cant because you know you are on the losing side of this one and it burns you up that ALPA is not going to save you on this one and you guys are not going to get everything ALPA hase promised.

Learn to live with it and stop dragging your feet and paying the lawyers.

Descent Check

 

[DGdaPilot]

How hard the high mighty always fall. No one can hide from karma. Just remember that...

 

[dh82dvr]

vixen perhaps if you had something constructive to bring to the conversation then you would not be considered an embarrassment to swa pilots. All you seem to have to say is variations of alpa sucks, airtran sucks and of course hoping all the aai guys get fenced off until they are out of work. You may or may not be a tool, but you sure do act like one.

 

[Wesb737fo]

Hey, I'm doing my part!

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Yep...just added a few myself