Aircraft assignmens at Netjets

[Lord Wakefield]

Is there one aircraft that works the least amount?Or is it pretty even across the board.

I don't know if they're still advertising it, but the job does entail some "heavy lifting."

That said, I'd go with the 800XP. No baggage space!!

 

[sweptwingz]

Pilot workload

This has been rehashed before, but the Netjets aircraft workload with the hardest working aircraft FIRST is:

Citation X
Excel
Ultra (Excel moved up)
G-200 (may change)
Hawker 800
Hawker 1000 (shrinking fleet, going away)
Falcon 2000
Sovereign (this will change)
Hawker 400XP (will move up)
Citation VII (losing pilots, will probably move up)
BBJ (getting busier all the time)

This is totally opinion based, and depends upon my standard tour question of "Hey, how hard are you guys working?"

Moral of the story, stay out of the X unless you need the type and time asap!

 

[CRAWDADDY]

As for the X, I think we'd all agree it's simply not a Citation. I was referring to the bravos, ultras, II's and the seventeen other varations of the same **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** plane...

It most certainly IS a Citation. It's made from tin, squeaks & rattles, and you'll only need to sit in those POS seats once on a cross country to know.

I'd quit before I'd ever go back to that unstable deathtrap of an excuse for a luxury vehicle.

....But, it is fast!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Just a question out of curiosity, with a Hawker type and decent time, what is the situation regarding getting hired in to specific aircraft? I don't really have any desire to fly a citation or beechjet if I can avoid it.

no offense, but whats the difference between a Hawker and a Citation??

Is it really "downsizing" to move out of that big Hawker??

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[Heavy Set]

This has been rehashed before, but the Netjets aircraft workload with the hardest working aircraft FIRST is:

Citation X
Excel
Ultra (Excel moved up)
G-200 (may change)
Hawker 800
Hawker 1000 (shrinking fleet, going away)
Sovereign (this will change)
Hawker 400XP (will move up)
Citation VII (losing pilots, will probably move up)
BBJ (getting busier all the time)

This totally opinion based, and depends upon my standard tour question of "Hey, how hard are you guys working?"

Moral of the story, stay out of the X unless you need the type and time asap!

Thanks for the information because I know this question has been asked many times. When you say hardest working do you mean:

1. Most sectors per day
2. Least amount of rest time - no good layovers
3. Most hours in the air per day
4. Likely to be flying nonstop throughout the tour (no breaks)
5. Types of flights flown (more transcon)

Can you elaborate more on what "hardest working" means in your opinion. Can anyone on the X give some examples of how hard you typically work - what does a "typical" tour look like in terms of number of flights and types of flights flown? I think that would be helpful. I noticed the Falcon was not included in your list.

 

[ALV]

I am hired for the April 25th class and was offered the ultra, beechjet the excel and the 800xp. Took about 2 hours to decide on the 800xp after consulting a few friends. If they don't offer choices ask, it may be the last time you have a choice in anything for a while.

Dan

 

[CRAWDADDY]

I noticed the Falcon was not included in your list.

It's going to be part of a new company called : FNJ

 

[sweptwingz]

When you say hardest working do you mean:

1. Most sectors per day
2. Least amount of rest time - no good layovers
3. Most hours in the air per day
4. Likely to be flying nonstop throughout the tour (no breaks)
5. Types of flights flown (more transcon)

All of the above. I averaged 400-600 hours per YEAR in the Ultra, 4-6 legs per day was normal. I average 200-300 hours per year in the VII, a 3 leg day is normal. Stay out of the X, it is a "Roman Slave Ship" !!!! Coast to coast, and constant 14 hour duty, with minimal rest. It's simply TOO fast for it's own good. STAY OUT OF THE TEN.
Unless you break, expect a 10-12 hour overnight in most aircraft. QOL on the road is minimal. The bigger, faster, jets do more transcon, logically. They work you VERY hard here. Many ex-airline guys are shocked, and simply can't "hang".
IF and ONLY if released by the mediator for self help in June, COUNT on a solid (and VERY nasty) strike here, I would seriously consider that as a NJA wanna be.

 

[Raskal]

no offense, but whats the difference between a Hawker and a Citation??

Is it really "downsizing" to move out of that big Hawker??

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None taken, and a Citation isn't "downsizing" per say, It's just that as a 6'1" guy bending while crabbing through the cabin sucks after awhile. I was referring to the size of the cabin, not the total aircraft. And, yes, the X cabin is also a bit tight, but about the same as a Hawker height wise. I'm not looking down on one plane vs another, believe me, I just get sick of back aches so especially at a company like NJA where you're in and out of the plane a lot I am concernced with things like that. Besides, I hate the citation doors (Encore and X aside)

But, you know what the real deal breaker is? An APU...I never want to fly another plane without one, especially up here in the cold.

 

[Webslinger]

Just a question out of curiosity, with a Hawker type and decent time, what is the situation regarding getting hired in to specific aircraft? I don't really have any desire to fly a citation or beechjet if I can avoid it.

In my opinion you have a very good chance of being placed in the hawker fleet-(depending on NJA's needs). Five years ago I interviewed with EJA and was asked what fleet I would enjoy if given the choice. Being that I was already typed in the hawker I preffered the HS-125/1000 (although they are being phased out now) and got the fleet I wanted. May have been luck, but regardless of the fleet, if they have an opening and you have previous experience in that "type" why wouldnt NJA put you in that "type" of aircraft- especially from an experience and safety viewpoint?
Hey (X402) If you have "xyz" amount of time in a hawker 700, they are NOT going to put you in a Citation ultra.