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ChicoC17

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I fly on my time off in a Aero Club where I'm stationed. A few weeks ago there was an FAA Inspection and the inspectors found some aircraft with what they call open discrepancies. Things like Autopilot Inop, Landing Light Inop etc. etc. All the pilots that flew those airplanes received letters from the FAA saying an investigation was under way for flying unairworthy aircraft due to open discrepancies, and to give any evidence or statements regarding the matter.

My understanding of FAR 91.213 is that if the instruments or equipment inop are not required for the flight the airplane is still airworthy. If I get back from a flight and the autopilot is inop the person flying the airplane after me is ok to take the airplane and fly it. I have flown in many flight schools and there were many discrepancies after flights and we never grounded airplanes for open discrepancies. I hope to hear your comments about this matter. Thanks!
 
The problem is that they were not deferred. An open write-up can and does make the aircraft un-airworthy in the eyes of the FAA. Since the aero club is semi- "commercial" they tend to get held to a higher standard than a private owner. The biggest thing is that someone with the proper authority needed to close out the write up, before the aircraft left again. By regulation the club does not need an MEL, but they might want to consider writing one for their aircraft.
 
ok thanks for taking your time to answer my question. So what should the Pilots do to avoid a violation or anything that can affect their records? And how does an aircraft owner flies an aircraft with open discrepancies like this? I'm just really confused regarding this matter. Thanks!
 
I believe the key issue is what type of operation the pilot is acting under. If you are acting under part 91, then you are governed by 91.213 (d). Assuming there is no MEL for the aiplane, you have several requirements to meet before you can fly with inoperative equipment. They are:


(d) Except for operations conducted in accordance with paragraph (a) or (c) of
this section, a person may takeoff an aircraft in operations conducted under this
part with inoperative instruments and equipment without an approved
Minimum Equipment List provided --

(1) The flight operation is conducted in a --
(i) Rotorcraft, nonturbine-powered airplane, glider, or lighter-than-air aircraft
for which a master Minimum Equipment List has not been developed; or
(ii) Small rotorcraft, nonturbine-powered small airplane, glider, or lighter-thanair
aircraft for which a Master Minimum Equipment List has been developed;
and
(2) The inoperative instruments and equipment are not --
(i) Part of the VFR-day type certification instruments and equipment prescribed
in the applicable airworthiness regulations under which the aircraft was type
certificated;
(ii) Indicated as required on the aircraft's equipment list, or on the Kinds of
Operations Equipment List for the kind of flight operation being conducted;
(iii) Required by §91.205 or any other rule of this part for the specific kind of
flight operation being conducted; or
(iv) Required to be operational by an airworthiness directive; and



So if the equipment that is inop does not meet the preceding conditions, you may fly under part 91, provided you do the following:




(3) The inoperative instruments and equipment are --
(i) Removed from the aircraft, the cockpit control placarded, and the
maintenance recorded in accordance with §43.9 of this chapter; or
(ii) Deactivated and placarded "Inoperative." If deactivation of the inoperative
instrument or equipment involves maintenance, it must be accomplished and
recorded in accordance with part 43 of this chapter; and



The key catch is 213(d) (3) (ii) which states that if the de-activation requires actual maintenance, then the deactivation of the inop equipent must be made and recorded in the logbook in compliance with part 43. Just slapping a sticker that says "Inoperative" on the face of an instrument or on a light switch, does not always qualify as properly deactivating under part 43.

And so if all that stuff has been done, so long as the following is also made, then you are legal to fly under part 91, according to (4) below:

(4)A determination is made by a pilot, who is certificated and appropriately
rated under part 61 of this chapter, or by a person, who is certificated and
appropriately rated to perform maintenance on the aircraft, that the inoperative
instrument or equipment does not constitute a hazard to the aircraft. An aircraft
with inoperative instruments or equipment as provided in paragraph (d) of this
section is considered to be in a properly altered condition acceptable to the Administrator.



Deferring the equipment until maintenance is not a requirement of 91.213. So long as the above requirements are met, you do not need to have your broken ADF or LORAN fixed at the next 100 hour or annual to remain airworthy to fly under part 91.
 
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ChicoC17 said:
ok thanks for taking your time to answer my question. So what should the Pilots do to avoid a violation or anything that can affect their records? And how does an aircraft owner flies an aircraft with open discrepancies like this? I'm just really confused regarding this matter. Thanks!
Assuming you're dealing with 91.213(d), here's a quick outline:

1. Start with the base concept is that you cannot operate an airplane with =any= inoperative equipment. Everything after that is an "unless.."

2. If the equipment is not required, you may fly it if the inoperative equipment is deactivated or removed, and the inoperative equipment placarded.
(a) The question of whether a piece of equipment is "required" involves various rules and documents, from FAR 91.205 to the POH equipment list to the TCDS.
(b) An problem area is involves the word "deactivated". Take an inoperative AI for example. Is covering it so that it doesn't play a part in the operation of the aircraft enough to "deactivate" it?

3. If the deactivation or removal involves "maintenance", there must be a log entry made.

4. "Maintenance means inspection, overhaul, repair, preservation, and the replacement of parts, but excludes preventive maintenance." (FAR1)
 
In addition to the above explainations, an understanding of what constitutes "airworthy," is in order. The FAA has determined that airworthiness is determined by two equally important issues. One is that the part or aircraft conforms to approved data. The second is that it is in a condition for safe flight.

The former, conforms to approved data, means that the aircraft as a whole, and every single part of that aircraft, conform to the type certification of the aircraft, any applicable ammendments, any alterations by STC or other means acceptable to the administrator, and any maintenance or continued airworthiness publications or documents relating to the airplane.

In this case, this means properly alterted and acceptable to the administrator in accordance with 14 CFR 91.213.

A condition for safe flight is a little more subjective, but all standards applicable in the aircraft maintenance publications, airworthiness directives, service bulletins, and industry standard publications (AC 43.14) will be held out as a minimum acceptable level of safety.

Technically, an aircraft with a single bolt that dosesn't have at least one threat above the plastic on a fibrelock nut, is unairworthy. An aircraft which has had a radio changed, but no log entry made is unairworthy. The airworthiness certificate is invalidated, in accordanc with line 6 of the airworthiness certificate itself.

Open discrepancies of their own rite are not acceptable. Every time a pilot flies an airplane, he is making a statement regarding the airworthiness of an airplane. He is stating that the airplane is airworthy, and setting forth to prove it. A pilot may be held in violation for failure to ensure that the aircraft is in an airworthy condition.

In cases where a grounding item, or an item not meeting full airworthiness criteria is not in evidence or is hidden, a pilot may often be excused from the duty to determine airworthiness. A cracked fan blade or damaged oil pump is such an example. However, when discrepancies are in the open, known, and obvious, a pilot may have little recourse or salvation during enforcement proceedings against him.
 
Kicksave is right. 91.213 (d)(2) is your "checklist" to determine the airworthiness unless you're operating other than part 91 or you have an MEL.
Additionally, I would give you a "heads-up" that some FSDO Inspectors who have a military / airline background, do not think in "part 91" terms, so they think these write-ups MUST be corrected like in part 135 / 121 / military...even to the point of writing a "Letter of Investigation".
Research 91.213 and be sure that has not been violated, and write a letter of response asking what part of 91.213 did you violate?
 
>>>>>So what should the Pilots do to avoid a violation or anything that can affect their records?

At this point? Hire an attorney. What's done is done, and you and your buddies need to minimize any penalty that might come from the investigation of what you've done.

To have prevented this? Not flown the airplanes with open equipment discrepancies. Know the regulations, don't document violations of them.

Sorry if this sounds unsympathetic, I'm not really. Those are just the facts.

Yeah, flying an airplane on a VFR day with an autopilot squawked inop, but not resolved, is a pretty small sin, in the grand scheme of things. There's probably very few of us who haven't done something similar.....but, it's still a violation. And by accepting and flying an airplane with an open Mx item, you've documented that violation. Ultimately, paperwork exists for one reason and one reason only: To hang you. To make you show that you've violated a regulation.

I'd bet that in this case, there's someone with an axe to grind at the bottom of this, maybe someone doesn't like Military aviators and wants to violate a few. That's unfortunate, I wish you the best of luck with this, but don't fail to take it seriously. Get an attorney.
 
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But, a plane is legally airworthy with openly squawked items, so long as the entire checklist of 213(d) is followed to the letter. An item being written up in a squawk log as inop does not make an airplane no longer un-airworthy on it's own. It would be un-airworthy only if it's flown and the inop item is not dealt with per 213 (d). Knowing about an inop item and doing nothing then flying it makes the plane illegal, and the pilot liable. But having an open item in a log, does not automatically disqualify the plane from being airworthy. 213(d) allows for planes to be flown with inop equipment, so long as it's done in accordance with the FARs.


And again, I'm strictly talking part 91 here. I know at my 141 school, any plane with any squawk was grounded until the MX resolved the item. 135 and 121 are obviously not the same as what I'm referring to.
 
KickSave said:
But, a plane is legally airworthy with openly squawked items, so long as the entire checklist of 213(d) is followed to the letter. An item being written up in a squawk log as inop does not make an airplane no longer un-airworthy on it's own. It would be un-airworthy only if it's flown and the inop item is not dealt with per 213 (d). Knowing about an inop item and doing nothing then flying it makes the plane illegal, and the pilot liable. But having an open item in a log, does not automatically disqualify the plane from being airworthy. 213(d) allows for planes to be flown with inop equipment, so long as it's done in accordance with the FARs.

Yes, all of this is true, but we're talking about squawks which have *not* been addressed under the provisions of 91.213(d) When I spoke of "open" or "unresolved" equipment discrepancies, I meant ones which had been reported but no action had been done. If I understand corectly, this is what the original poster is speaking of. If 91.213(d) had been complied with, the discepancies would not have been "open" or "unadressed" they would have been addressed by Mx procedures, placarding, and logbook entries.
 
Ok this is what happened. At the aero club where I fly we have these discrepancies forms, and when we are done flying we write anything wrong with the airplane on those forms. These forms are not required by the FAA as far as I know, and are not FAA documents. Some pilots wrote stuff on them like autopilot inop, landing light inop etc etc, but some of the equipment was functioning properly. I know when I flew the plane (C172R) the autopilot was working just fine. Since these forms are not part of the aircraft maintenance records the pilots flew the airplanes with those write ups. The FAA is saying those forms become part of the aiplane records and someone with the right authority needs to clear all write ups before each flight. I have flown in many 141 schools and this was never done, so the FAA is mentioning letters of Correction to some of the pilots and to some of the flight instructors Checkrides to test their knowledge on Aircraft Airworthiness.

I've been flying civilian since I started college, and I got all my ratings in a 141 school and I have never heard of this. I fly for the military now and I haven't been involved with general aviation that much, and now that I'm trying to get back to it I get all this stuff thrown at me for flying that airplane just once. Sometimes it just makes me want to stop flying civilian even though I love it so much......sorry for the long post I just needed to vent. Thanks to all of you for taking the time to answer some of my questions.
 
ChicoC17 said:
Ok this is what happened. At the aero club where I fly we ...
The position you describe is not unusual. It happened a few years ago at a place where I fly.

The viewpoint is pretty simple: The form the FBO uses may not be "official" but that's not the point. Unless 91.213 is complied with, you can't fly an airplane with a discrepancy. It doesn't matter whether it's put on =any= form. The form simply provides hard evidence that can be used against the organization by an overzealous FAA inspector.

As you probably know, this can cause problems other than enforcement. For example., it means that every squawk must be looked at by a mechanic which means both unnecessary expense and downtime. In turn, that unfortunately dissuades pilots from reporting a problem. And, as you point out, pilots are quite capable of squawking an item that is perfectly okay. (My favorite was a "mixture vernier control inop" squawk by a student. That particular airplane didn't have one!)

The way that the club I'm familiar with handled it was to change the form a bit so that it was clearly a report of a "possible" discrepancy. A line item was added for required confirmation. So, if for example, a student pilot came in saying "radios inop", the airplane would be grounded, but a CFI would go out to check on it, and making an entry to confirm whether or not the discrepancy actually existed.
 
It's not a matter of flying civillian vs. flying military. One is responsible for the environment in which one flies. One shouldn't venture into the IFR environment without an understanding of the regulation and requirement there, and then suggest that having the regulation thrown at them is enough to make them want to stop going there. Weather you fly "civillian" once of a thousand times, you're equally responsible for adherence to the regulation.

Weather a maintenance write-up is on an "official form" or not, makes no difference. Rent an airplane and write a grounding comment on a note and stick it on the "can," and you've grounded the airplane, period. If the airplane has unresolved discrepancies, then it's no longer in conformance with it's type certification and approved data as ammended.
It's no longer airworthy.

The old airline standby question applies, even when not talking Part 121. You want to rent your airplane, and a nav light is burned out, what do you do? It's day, VFR, you won't be using the system. Can you go? Intuition says yes, but what about legality? Seems a small issue, but then that's the point.

Forgetting the issue of weather the equipment is required under day VFR, night VFR, or under IFR...was the aircraft certificated with that equipment, or was it later installed by means of a field approval or STC? Then it's now required equipment, unless you have a minimum equipment list that preapproves it's inoperative condition.

You now need to get it fixed, or make it's condition acceptably altered. Use of 91.213 does this; it prescribes a method by which an inoperative component may be altered in a manner acceptable to the administrator, in order to make the components legal.

A comment was made earlier about deactivating inoperative components. This isn't always as easy as it sounds. First one must determine if there is any manufacturer literature that regards the matter. Simply covering the attitude indicator may not be enough. You need to understand the system thoroughly. You need to be aware that often deactivation and placarding in accordance with 91.213 must be done by the holder of a mechanic certificate (A&P), as appropriate.

The issue of an inoperative attitude indicator was brought up before. Simply covering it may be scarcely enough. As airflow is typically through the attitude indicator and then the directional gyro, an inop or failing AI may and often does directly affect the DG. You now have the consideration of deactivating the vacum system; you may be looking at a pump issue, and you can't simply remove the pump in most cases. It's also appended to the engine via the accessory section. This raises the issue of potential engine complications (drive damage, garlock seal leakage, etc)...simply putting a note over the attitude indicator isn't going to cut it.

Neither is removing the attitude indicator. One could do so, but then open lines leave the vacum system sucking unfiltered, unregulated air. The entire system is contaminated. You could connect the remaining lines, but you have just made a major alteration to the system, requiring a field approval and a Form 337. A fine not to exceed ten thousand dollars comes with that one, usually applied to the owner/opeator, and a certificate suspension for you. Revocation if it involved passengers and/or safety of flight, in some cases.

The point is that it's not a light issue, at all. Nor a simple fix, in many cases. In addition to the above, in cases where alteration under 91.213 can be made by the pilot, the pilot is still fully responsible for adherence to Part 43, all applicable maintenance and continued airworthiness publications for the airplane and components, and industry standards such as AC 43.13.

On the subject of Administrative action...this isn't a test for knowledge of aircraft airworthiness. This is enforcement action taken by the FAA. A letter or warning or a letter of correction is an administrative action taken by the FAA that's a step short of seeking certificate suspension. Under administrative law, you don't have the same rights and privileges that you do in the criminal justice system; you are presumed guilty unless proven innocent. By receiving these letters, you are being notified that you have been found guilty.

The administrative letters will be placed in your record for a period of two years. If you leave the military and seek civillian work, this is going to come up. If you apply for a job and are asked if you have any violations on your record, this will surface. You can say you don't have any violations, but that you do have a letter of correction. You'll be asked why, and you'll have to admit that it's for flying an airplane in an unairworthy condition. This probably won't prevent you from being hired, but it's important to understand that a letter of warning and a letter of correction are administrative actions; it's evidence that the FAA has taken action against you, and it is a black mark.

(With the possible exception of an operation I hired on with a few years ago. During the interview with a government official, I was asked if I had any accidents, incidents, or violations. In the interest of disclosure, I told him about two letters of warning. He looked somber for a moment and then said he wasn't sure if I would make the grade. Then he added, "We usually don't hire anybody without at least three letters of warning and several violations...").

I should also add that someone above has suggested that you send a letter to the FAA outlining why you think you're in compliance, perhaps refuting the charges against you. Don't do that. Anything you say is used against you. If anything is to be done, let your attorney forward a reply, but don't do it yourself. Your only likely outcome is to bury yourself and apply evidence on the side of the FAA. Even if your letter only shows an ignorance of the regulation, it will be used against you.

Something to ponder. A Squared was correct; to address this issue any further will require the input of your attorney.
 
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It's not a matter of flying civillian vs. flying military. One is responsible for the environment in which one flies. One shouldn't venture into the IFR environment without an understanding of the regulation and requirement there, and then suggest that having the regulation thrown at them is enough to make them want to stop going there. Weather you fly "civillian" once of a thousand times, you're equally responsible for adherence to the regulation.

I don't know what you meant by this but I'm very aware of the environment I fly. IFR Environment?? Well again not sure what you meant by that, but I think I'm very familiar with the IFR environment. Believe me that one thing we do in the military is to follow regulations, and we don't stop doing something because we did something wrong. I was just expressing what I felt at the moment, If I confused you that was not my intent. Thanks!
 
ChicoC17,

My comments were never intended to question your competence. My point was that as a pilot, we are responsible for the arena in which we operate. As a military pilot, a certain standard and level of competence is required in all areas of flying. You must posess a certain level of technical skill, a certain understanding and grasp of regulation, meteorology, physiology, physics, etc. This is no different from civillian flying.

What this does mean, however, is that weather one undertakes a single flight as a civillian, or many, one is equally responsible for adherence to regulation. In this case, regulation regarding maintenance and continued airworthiness.

You stated that you're very well aware of the environment in which you fly...but apparently that doesn't extend to the airworthiness issues of the airplanes in question, else this thread wouldn't be taking place.

Don't feel too defensive on the issue. You posted the question and made the request for comments. You've received some good commentary all around. Most likely information you didn't have before, at least not as completely. This is a good thing, and it's best taken as such.
 
>>>>>>On the subject of Administrative action...this isn't a test for knowledge of aircraft airworthiness. This is enforcement action taken by the FAA. A letter or warning or a letter of correction is an administrative action taken by the FAA that's a step short of seeking certificate suspension.

Avbug, while I don't disagree with your synopsis of administrative law, I think that what Chico was talking about was that the FAA was proposing reexamining the instructors, a "709 ride" if you will, although it could be an oral examination, and not a flight test. Anything or anyone with a Certificate is subject to reinspection or reexamination at any time to determine if they or it meet the requirements of issue of that certificate

US Code, Title 49 Sec. 44709. - Amendments, modifications, suspensions, and revocations of certificates

(a) Reinspection and Reexamination. -

The Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration may reinspect at any time a civil aircraft, aircraft engine, propeller, appliance, air navigation facility, or air agency, or reexamine an airman holding a certificate issued under section 44703 of this title.
 
That would make sense. I didn't pick that up from his post, but it would make sense. The 709 (formerly 609, I believe) ride isn't usually given for a single infraction or two regarding a few open write-ups, though. I would suspect that if this is indeed the case, there are bigger fish to fry as part of the effort. Certainly it's the culmination of surveilance action on the instructor's or other individuals in question.

A reexamination is usually done for more significant reasons.

If this is the case, then perhaps there's more to the story, and the flying club is under surveillance for more than just a few minor infractions.
 
On the issue of what constitues "deactivation" -- my local FSDO's interpretation was "disconnected from the power source". Their example was if a pull off circuit breaker exists for the radio then the CB could be pulled off and zip tied so that it could not be reset. Then the radio could be placarded inop and you'd be good to go. However, a turn coordinator may not be working properly, but to "disconnect from the power source (?)" would require maintenance and an "inop" sticker is not sufficient to comply with 91.213.

On my CFI ride, the inspector had the book "FARs explained". I thought it was funny that this book defined deactivation the same way. There is no official definition, so it's hard to say what legally constitutes deactivation. Some may argue that if they leave the radio off, then it's deactivated.

Mike
 
Mike,

As I explained before, it's not that simple. When considering deactivation, you need to review all the relevant approved data. Simply flipping a switch may be inadequate. You need to review maintenance publications, airworthiness directives, supplemental type certificates, directions for continued airworthiness, field approvals and data provided an Form 337's, service bulletins, and any other data which may be applicable. Deactivation often involves more than one component.

Additionally, in many cases, simply placarding the item inoperative won't cut it; a logbook entry may be required. In other cases, deactivation may constitute a major change in the type design, and may require a field approval and execution of a Form 337.

91.213 sounds simple enough, but it isn't always that simple. Pilots and owners often make a similiar mistake when looking at preventative maintenance items listed in Part 43. Not until they do a little digging do they realize that logbook enties are still required, that they must be in posession of current maintenance publications, that they must perform to the same standard required of any mechanic, that they must use the specific calibrated tools called out for in the maintenance publications, etc. It sounds simple, but that's part of why mechanics are required to undergo more class study than that required for a typical four year degree.

As an example to removing a cannon plug on a faulty instrument; you have just changed the loading, grounding, and resistance on a given circuit. What impact or effect does that have on the restof the circuit, or appended circuits? Have precautions been taken to avoid arcing at the bus? Did that circuit accomplish other functions? What about securing the plug? What do the manufacturs publications say on the issue? Have you consulted both the airframe and the applicance manufacturers publications? Is this item affected by an AD? How does this item relate to other equipment installed by STC or AD, that are not part of the original type certification? What do those publications tell you about compatability and the difference deactivation might make?

Simply tying off a breaker (what else does that breaker affect, or power? If it's serving more than one circuit, you may no longer have protection for the circuit, or you may have created other problems, too. You may have inadvertantly deactivated a system, component, appliance, circuit, or whatever, that had nothing to do with the original issue.

91.213 isn't nearly as cut and dried as some might think, because it's dealing with infinite possibilities with each aircraft and system individually; it's blanket information, and you're responsible for doing the research to ensure that you're in compliance when you do your work.
 

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