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Airbus to Proceed With New A350 Jet

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cforst513

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anyone else think that they should concentrate on the problems that they have now with the A380 instead of moving onto new things? and do we REALLY need another freakin' airliner?!?

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ToiletDuck said:
My question is what's so great abou the 787? What's the overall design for? I heard that it will be composite so is it basically just a 767 that's a lot more efficient?

Key Words- MORE EFFICIENT!!!!!!:beer:
 
There are a lot of aging 767 airframes out there, and the 787 is Boeing's product offering to replace them, and airbi. The 787 is a clean sheet design, nothing taken from the 767. In the brutally competitive airline industry increased efficiency will be a very attractive attribute. Plus it's supposed to be nice for passengers, things like better air ciruculation, lower cabin altitude, increased humidity (is that going to cause mold problems?), bigger windows, mood lighting, more space in the overhead bins, etc.
Airbus had to work on making the A350 in order to not hand over market share to the 787.
 
And all the A350 is, is an updated A330.
 
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wait -- are you talking about the brasiliantonov airboeingbus or the dorniembraer airboeingbus? :D
 
The Airbus effort to counter the 787 with another model is half-hearted at best. It's true that the 787 is a clean-sheet design, with new engines designed just for it.

The A350 is an A330 that makes more use of composite parts, and uses the engines being developed for the 787.

The problem is, Boeing is doing away with the use of bleed air in the 787, to let a more efficient bleedless engine to be used. Everything on the 787 that used to be pneumatic is going to be electric now. Pressurization is going to be done with electric air compressors, and anti-icing is going to be all electric. The engines will be started with starter/generators, like a King Air. To handle the electric loads, the 787 is going to have the most electrical generation capacity of any airliner- 1500 KVA total (in comparison, most airliners now have about 120 KVA in AC generation).

To cater to Airbus and the A350, GE and Rolls-Royce are trying to adapt their Gen-X and Trent 1000 engines to lose the extra electrical capacity and add a bleed air system. That's going to be hard to do while maintaining the efficiency that this new design is built around!

So, Airbus is offering to the market a rebadged old-school A330 that has some new composite parts, and engines that are producing bleed air that they weren't designed for. We'll see how efficient this design is compared to the 787. I'll bet the results will be disappointing, as will be A350 sales.
 

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