Airborne to furlough another 6

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Airborne Express will furlough another 6 in July and rumor is 6 more in August. This doesn't sound like much but it's 1.5% added to more than 5% already on the the street.

Hopefully Deutsche Post rescues us or a dramatic increase in express catches them with their pants down.

Furloughing while in negoatiations seems to be the latest management tactic for controlling pilot costs and splitting union membership.
 

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ABX will probably have to recall when the Feds finish their investigation of the PFE's and their bogus logbooks.
 

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UPSer

What are you talking about? Enlighten us. Sounds interesting.
 

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Someone called the FAA hotline claiming that some former PFE's that have upgraded to F/O and some that are building their flight time to upgrade to F/O have been padding time in their logbooks.

ABX's POI was charged with investigating the situation and said that he was going to audit the logbooks from all the PFE's that have ugraded and those that were in the process of doing so.
 

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FAA Hotline

Does anyone know that number? I have something I want to report as well
 

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PFEs

Do you have any idea how many PFEs we might be talking about? Just an approx. #.
 

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Noone I've asked has ever heard of this, someone got bogus info.
 

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If a PFE padded a log book, how much time would they have to pad.

Arent they PFE's only requiring like 500 hours to be eligible for the position?

I think if a guy hardly has any flight time at all and he passes a check ride, he probobly deserves a medal, especially if he's in an DC-8.

I think some you may be a little upset with there seniority, I may be wrong though.
 

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Good point. Only one has bid the 8 and he is in training now. some have bid the 9 and it has taken multiple attempts to qualify in some cases. Most now are bidding the 767, this seems to be the best transition as it does not heavily tax ones flying skills, at least as long as everything is working properly. Not a bad gig though, 767 FO at 600 hours and even better eligible for Capt. immediately upon getting an ATP!
 

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Thats correct, but most of the guy have comman sense also.

But a few Fo's I have spoken with are bent out of shape becuase of the senoirity thing, some dont even recognize that fact.
 

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If 6.5% of pilots are on furlough, what DOH is that going to ?
 

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Abex

Is there any progress with the contract talks at all? If not when would the option of striking occur?
 

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There have been ZERO meetings between the parties since last spring, no progress at all! However, the NMB and only the NMB controls when a strike may happen and I do not believe we are even close to that point; no strike vote has even taken place within the union.
 

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Hasn't the current contract been expired for a year now?
 

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Yes, August 1st was the anniversary, but since many negotiations take two years or more, we still have a ways to go.
 

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I was furloughed 3 Mar of 2000. I am currently playing in a sandbox till 1 Dec. Then I will be looking for a job. OH well. Gotta love it.
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To ABXAViator

I use to fly for ABX and there have been multiple PFEs over the years who upgraded to FO in the 8 and 9(none in the 767 before I left).

Also before I left Paul Trimback a former PFE upgraded to captain in the DC9. Pretty impressive individual.

I speak very highly of the people i flew with at airborne.

In fact I just got a check from airborne for a grievance the union won for day/night perdiem. thanks guys.

just my 2cents
 

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So far ABX has 42 on the street and I have no idea how many if anymore will join us.
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